The intentions are good and watching some clips from meetings on Facebook there are very genuine people behind it with genuine problems that should be addressed.
At the end of the day there gripe is entirely with the meat factories who are private entities and not obliged to to anything .
Early on there was talk of withholding cattle for improvements but in reality this will never work.fighting talk sounds great but with no power what can they do?
The majority of beef farmers income is direct payments but they are ignoring this entirely. In my view they should be fighting that side also
Any of ye contacted about doing the beef plan survey? They want an awful lot of info. How can we be sure that it will stay in their hands only. They say that it's for to set up producer groups. I wouldn't be comfortable giving them that detailed of information
Any of ye contacted about doing the beef plan survey? They want an awful lot of info. How can we be sure that it will stay in their hands only. They say that it's for to set up producer groups. I wouldn't be comfortable giving them that detailed of information
Are they getting anywhere with the protest. Fair play to them for trying but lads are still delivering cattle into factorys. Rumours of them offering 4 a kg to lads for cattle this week . Kilbeggan was meant to have stopped killing yesterday because vets stood with farmers, any F4F members at factory gates?
They cant physically block it legally I think.
I’m usually pro the IFA but I think their carry on lately towards the beef prices and the 100mil fund is almost a scandal, they are doing absolutely nothing and I’ve lost a lot of faith in them as a result. I’m not a beef farmer but I deal with them through work and it’s tough going lately. Fair play to the beef plan for trying somthing but I just feel it could have been done an awful lot better and more effective, the first word I heard on it was Sunday evening that the protest was at 6am Monday morning and I usually hear lots of things due to the nature of my job.
They are in the hands of the milk processors and meat factories as they collect their levies for them to find the lavish lifestyle. Until they can break that bond they are at nothing and will continue to lose members, it’s a shame really as a strong voice is needed but the IFA who once were a great organisation are now just a puppet for the super powers.The ifa only care about the big farmers and European handouts.
They spent 12 months hard labour trying to get 100 euro for the suckler cow that nobody with their head screwed on really wanted because it would see prices fall. They are taking a break now. With all this talk about reducing suckler cow numbers, they'll be pushing again for money for the cow. They don't want to bite the hand that feeds them so will keep away from factory gates until they are forced into it.The ifa only care about the big farmers and European handouts.
Ouch....https://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/farmer-injured-while-protesting-outside-beef-factory/Are they trying to stop lads going in or just camping up outside... I reckon fair play to them ..4 lads standing outside our local one must be a beef lads working full time...
The best one I have heard is that one of the main guys in the protest in bandon got his cattle in on sunday morning before the protest started.
Beef prices are on the floor throughout Europe. What can the IFA (etc) do about it on a national level?
Why would the factories pay more for beef when their competitors in mainland Europe can buy an equal or superior animal for less?
Price is price.
The beef crisis is as grave as the last dairy crisis. Intervention solved that...
I'm thinking that it was only for the 'main' lads originally as theres a lot of lads in the group who are only to keep an eye wats happening... my take it if your real interested u got onto one of these lads and the pm you what is the plan... they probably let out the info wen it was to late for the factories to do anything... to blow all that teory out if the water a factory agent told me today they rang him last Thursday that they didn't need cattle the start of the week...who knows
I could never get the same price for similar animals here...Rs, holxlm/ch/pt are always around 30c/kg behind Irish prices. Even purebred Ch/Lm/BB etc rarely make the same money. Sooooo, either Irish factories are paying better than French factories or we’re being robbed?I'm surprised intervention hasn't been more widely mentioned. Are the EU afraid that it will take a few years for it to clear like with milk powder??
I read somewhere German beef price is close to 20c behind Ireland at the moment. I'm sure France is similar?
what odds did it make if the factories knew there was going to be protests. I had cattle booked in since 3 weeks ago for yesterday and today. On the strength of these animals been slaughtered I had given assurances that end of month accounts would be cleared with people like yourself, independent merchants, all businesses gasping to stay above water, IF I had known there was going to be a strike I would have tried to get out of this, but I have given my word. I have yet to see a strike achieve anything, dialogue is what gets action. I doubt, Dawn,abp or kepak are going to budge for 5c so this is pointless. They have lost any support I would have for them