GO .Wales and England voted to leave the European Union
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GO .Wales and England voted to leave the European Union
Wales and England voted to leave the European Union
And Scotland and Northern Ireland voted to remain, so how do you think that will work out? once we've fecked the border in NI and done away with the most significant ar for Scotland staying in the union?
Wish these two guys would cancel each other out.
Guy V and Farage, two dangerous characters in my opinion.
https://twitter.com/guyverhofstadt/status/1122869490155491328?s=21
Agreed, verhofstadt isn't someone I'd be a fan of at all
He doesn't do anything to help himself alright. Charisma wouldn't be high up the list.
Found out during the week farages attendance in the EU parliament votes is just over 40%. That's a disgrace. If anyone else showed up to work 2 days in 5, you'd be out the door.
I don't care if you believe in the EU or not. If you're put there to represent people, you represent them. You do the job you were elected to do.
Maybe the EU would do more for the UK if their MEP's could be bothered to show up in the morning.
To be fair he has challenges not many of us would be able to handle as well as he has. I met him once, struck me as a very vibrant, human person, very unlike the usual preening, mirror gazers reps we have.Brian Crowley didn't attend too many meetings in the past few years either and he didn't resign. I'm not sure if any of his proxies did either.
To be fair he has challenges not many of us would be able to handle as well as he has. I met him once, struck me as a very vibrant, human person, very unlike the usual preening, mirror gazers reps we have.
As 6600 said, Crowley has faced big challenges. He hasnt been in good health lately too, there was an article lately where there was talk of his legs being amputated.Brian Crowley didn't attend too many meetings in the past few years either and he didn't resign. I'm not sure if any of his proxies did either.
I don't think the views of one loon are representative of the parliament. Even tusk and juncker scoff at his notion of this us of europe. Plus, theres more monarchies in tue EU than the Uk, cant see any of them plumping for that.Guy Verhofstadt (suitably pronounced 'Gee') was Prime Minister of Belgium from 1999 to 2008. His party the VLD went from 23% in the '99 election which resulted in a coalition of Liberals, Socialists and Greens to 15% in 2005 and 12% in 2007 when the people finally got rid of him. Some of his achievements as prime minister were, the legalisation of euthanasia, legislation of same-sex marriage and faster naturalisation of foreigners.
He then served as a senator in Belgium until ascending to the European parliament in 2009. He was instantly 'elected' leader of the Alliance of Liberals and Democrats (not a joke!) Group, the same group Fianna Fail are members of. To his credit Brian Crowley left that group and joined the European Conservative Group in 2014, to Michael Martin's fury.
Anyway back to Gee, he was 'named' spokeperson of the European Parliament on Brexit after a lunch with Barnier and Tusk. Throughout his career as his popularity with the voters fell his position of power rose. He is truly a dangerous man, in a parliament of dangerous, unelectables.
The dream of a federal European state is fast becoming real, sure didn't he write the book. In 2006..
Guy Verhofstadt (suitably pronounced 'Gee') was Prime Minister of Belgium from 1999 to 2008. His party the VLD went from 23% in the '99 election which resulted in a coalition of Liberals, Socialists and Greens to 15% in 2005 and 12% in 2007 when the people finally got rid of him. Some of his achievements as prime minister were, the legalisation of euthanasia, legislation of same-sex marriage and faster naturalisation of foreigners.
You view all of these achievements as negatives then?
Scotland and Northern Ireland can't be exceptions to stayAnd Scotland and Northern Ireland voted to remain, so how do you think that will work out? once we've fecked the border in NI and done away with the most significant argument for Scotland staying in the union?
Farage isn't dangerousWish these two guys would cancel each other out.
Guy V and Farage, two dangerous characters in my opinion.
https://twitter.com/guyverhofstadt/status/1122869490155491328?s=21
He wants to repeal the firearm laws prohibiting hand guns that were introduced after the Dunblane massacre, calling the regulations ludicrous.Farage isn't dangerous
1. How did that cost the taxpayers anything?He wants to repeal the firearm laws prohibiting hand guns that were introduced after the Dunblane massacre, calling the regulations ludicrous.
He was also linked to the shorting of the pound that occurred the night of the Brexit referendum, which seen hedge funds make hundreds of millions of pounds at the cost of the British tax payer.
Jury is out on that i'm afraid.
It is still not proven but if he, as many believe he did, released false information and profited from it, when he conceded the referendum when all Mercer's info told him he had won, then that might be considered insider trading and totally illegal.1. How did that cost the taxpayers anything?
2. That's what hedge funds do. Just happened to be the pound that day.
3. Is there something wrong with making money? If you think so then the EU is the place to be.
4. He hardly spent a lifetime working for a referendum just to take an option on the pound one day now did he?
1 it drives down the value of the currency, thus reducing purchasing power. Who picks up the tab of the short? The UK Treasury. Same thing as happened on black Wednesday in 19921. How did that cost the taxpayers anything?
2. That's what hedge funds do. Just happened to be the pound that day.
3. Is there something wrong with making money? If you think so then the EU is the place to be.
4. He hardly spent a lifetime working for a referendum just to take an option on the pound one day now did he?
When he conceded in the small hours it did seem all hope for Brexit was lost. All the polls showed Brexit on the losing side. He had the good grace to concede. Similar to Trump's election the reporters and pollsters didn't stray too far out of their college educated, liberal comfort zone and were wrong.1 it drives down the value of the currency, thus reducing purchasing power. Who picks up the tab of the short? The UK Treasury. Same thing as happened on black Wednesday in 1992
2 Yes, i take no issues with capitalism. But their use of exit polling was controversial. Also see point 3.
3 Nothing wrong with making money. Its just not appropriate for an elected official to do that. Conflict of interest?
4. He didnt solely devote his time to that. He was also working for numerous commodities trading companies on the side during his tenure in parliament. Might explain his 40% attendance rate
While arguably not illegal, i certainly think it questionable on a moral and professional level. It certainly isnt appropriate for an elected official. And if as gone states that when he conceded defeat in the referendum, after they had conducted their exit polling that they were trying to effect market confidence, that could be classified as insider trading which is illegal
I dont see anyone trying to defend his handgun stance. That was why i really though he was dangerous. The short was a bit of a tangent.
And also. How is being in the EU a bad place to make money? My parents like others were born in the 60's, and they seen pre EU poverty.
Im not by any means an out and out europhile. Im quite indifferent. I liken the EU to my welder. Its useful in some ways. Its probably not the most efficient. The welder my father would have had wasnt hectic, so the welder i have is surely better. The alternative is no welder.
When he conceded in the small hours it did seem all hope for Brexit was lost. All the polls showed Brexit on the losing side. He had the good grace to concede. Similar to Trump's election the reporters and pollsters didn't stray too far out of their college educated, liberal comfort zone and were wrong/QUOTE]
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/feat...w-pollsters-helped-hedge-funds-beat-the-crash
You're dead right about trump. Middle America was his stomping ground, where Hillary sent a cardboard cut out of herself instead of showing up.When he conceded in the small hours it did seem all hope for Brexit was lost. All the polls showed Brexit on the losing side. He had the good grace to concede. Similar to Trump's election the reporters and pollsters didn't stray too far out of their college educated, liberal comfort zone and were wrong.
Politicians profit from their policy decisions all the time but the criticism is only of the few.
To single out one politician for being connected with business is missing the point. Most of them are, intimately and everyone seems okay about it so long as they toe the line.
- James Reilly was appointed Health Minister here when he owned nursing homes and up to his armpits in debt, surely a conflict of interest when their main source if revenue is the state. Guess what both the subvention and occupancy rose, big surprise. That was Enda's biggest error of judgement imo.
- Coveney, dear Lord where will I start, appointed Ag minister when his brother was CEO of Greencore, previously the youngest CFO ever in Ireland at 27, an age at which he had a whole 2 or 3 years post-qualified experience and also is a non-exec director of Glanbia, one of the biggest milk processors in the country.
- How many politicians directly benefit from the land leasing exemption, forestry subsidies or teachers' pension and permanent post benefits?
- Theresa May's husband has a senior position in Capital Group, the largest shareholder in British Aerospace, who are currently supplying the Saudi government with weapons to bomb the shit out of Yemen, which is British foreign policy.
- David Cameron is reportedly worth £50 million and is currently using his position as an ex-PM door opener to put together a £1 billion UK-China investment fund.
- And for a bit of nostalgia, when our country was small, repressive and inward-looking Bertie was given a house.
He wants to change politicsHe wants to repeal the firearm laws prohibiting hand guns that were introduced after the Dunblane massacre, calling the regulations ludicrous.
He was also linked to the shorting of the pound that occurred the night of the Brexit referendum, which seen hedge funds make hundreds of millions of pounds at the cost of the British tax payer.
Jury is out on that i'm afraid.
Well i dont think repealing gun laws is the place to start.He wants to change politics