Ozzy Scott
Well-Known Member
The biggest mistake farmers ever made was sticking a tag in the ear of a bullock.
best line I have read in allot of years when it comes to beef. the minute we done this, our goose was cooking
The biggest mistake farmers ever made was sticking a tag in the ear of a bullock.
The biggest mistake farmers ever made was sticking a tag in the ear of a bullock.
Well ive seen all the offers and discounts in the supermarkets and special offers at the butchers.. they can sell, at a price.
We ve become so busy producing on one hand and working around tighter regulations on the other. But who is the winner..certainly not the grassfed beef producers anyway. Come springtime the marts are flooded with dairycalves with not enough homes to go to and yet its the beef producers are the target for cutting back.. it would be a joke if it were not so serious..
Any cutting back numbers has to be a collective decision between dairy and beef. Otherwise there will be even less homes for these calves.
There is no going back to basics...we are stuck with regulations for forseeable. I believe the future of irish beef will depend on this regulation but hopefully with better salesmen than we have now. We are exporting off an island and cant forget that..Im trying to highlight how crazy the idea is for the beef farmers to go away and plant shrubs and get dole for it while the dairysector drive on regardless. There are many many farmers like me buying dairy stock in the spring time and give them a good home.. The fact is , this spring, there was a glut of dairy stock , yearlings and calves to choose from. What happens to this stock if we ,the purchasers, are told cut back numbers but not the farmer producing them .. whats the plan minister ?
Can't speak for the minister. But its very evident to me that the plan is to reduce suckler cows down to a very low level so that those who cut down on vow numbers and don't plant their land will keep dairy offspring to finish for beef. This making dairy the only show in town and the beef man sucking from the dairy cow's fifth hind tit.
You are attacking the wrong sector when you accuse the Irish dairy herd of a world over supply of beef. Irish dairy is a drop in the ocean on the world market. It is the forests in south America that are been cut down at a alarming rate to produce more beef and increase green house gases and are helped on by the greed of European politicians who care more about giving more tarfit free access to Europe for this beef so they can gain access to South America for there buddies supplying Banking and car manufacturing who will supply more tax to pay politician wages but do nothing for rural European decline.Afaik alot of beef farmers have converted in the past couple seasons, further adding to the dairy calf problems in the spring. With regards to reducing suckler numbers, go to any of cork marts next spring and watch the mayhem of mart workers doing their best to accomodate all the dairy offspring while praying that nothing will stop the boats and tell me how many suckler calves you see. The minister should also take a good look before too many more of us convert
Protest has been suspended apparently, pending talks with MII and other farm organisations on Monday. Not sure how well this will go down with beef farmers who spent the last 2 weeks on the picket line.
I don't think the farmers will step away from the gates. Beef plan might distance themselves for legal reasons but don't think the farmers at the pickets will move.If it was that serious why didn't they talk over the weekend :scratchhead:
Factories will be replenished with stock on Sunday night / Monday morning so they are back in the game and can't blame farmers who are up against weight limits and age limits for that given where the price is at the moment.
will talks then not happen I wonder?I don't think the farmers will step away from the gates. Beef plan might distance themselves for legal reasons but don't think the farmers at the pickets will move.
they would want to be careful, im sure there are regulations governing how long a animal can wait in a lairage before slaughter under normal circumstancesIf it was that serious why didn't they talk over the weekend :scratchhead:
Factories will be replenished with stock on Sunday night / Monday morning so they are back in the game and can't blame farmers who are up against weight limits and age limits for that given where the price is at the moment.
Your dead right protest at liffey meats bjd has biggest turnout tonightI don't think the farmers will step away from the gates. Beef plan might distance themselves for legal reasons but don't think the farmers at the pickets will move.
obviously they don't do weekendsthey would want to be careful, im sure there are regulations governing how long a animal can wait in a lairage before slaughter under normal circumstances
strange talks didnt begin tonight. Are the beef barons off on sun holidays or what
BP are on a hiding to nothing if the retailers are left out of talks.It's dept of ag + MII v BP (rural ireland) now.
BP have genuine concerns that need to be addressed. I fear that if they don't get what they want, this could snowball and develop into a very very serious situation for the country.
BP are on a hiding to nothing if the retailers are left out of talks.