you want corbin to run the country?....People of Britain, I give you your Prime Minister.
https://twitter.com/BorisJohnson/status/1204152954934177792?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1204152954934177792&ref_url=https://news.sky.com/story/general-election-johnson-and-corbyn-star-in-love-actually-and-mean-tweets-clips-to-sway-voters-11882737
(worryingly I could see Leo doing something even cringier than that)
People of Britain, I give you your Prime Minister.
https://twitter.com/BorisJohnson/status/1204152954934177792?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1204152954934177792&ref_url=https://news.sky.com/story/general-election-johnson-and-corbyn-star-in-love-actually-and-mean-tweets-clips-to-sway-voters-11882737
(worryingly I could see Leo doing something even cringier than that)
you want corbin to run the country?....
I think you've hit the nail on the head. Voting for someone because they're the supposed lesser of two evils is not a sound foundation for democracy is it.Either which way the choice appears poor. It's a sad state of affairs when your 2 main main political parties main canvass consists of encouraging people not to vote for the opposition because they will ruin the country. You guys have very poor political choice in my opinion. We have very poor political choice in this country at the moment too. If there were an election in the morning, a lot of rural people would find it difficult to make up their mind as to who to vote for - not because of the great things that the political parties have done, but because of their incompetencies.
you want corbin to run the country?....
Dammed if you do and dammed if you don't kinda sums up the UK these days.
Personally I'd be marginally centre right, A capitalist but with a good shot of social justice thrown in.
I would view Corbyn as a borderline communist, but I think I'd still vote for him rather than live in a country run by Domnic Cummings.
At least you know what you're getting with Corbyn.
People of Britain, I give you your Prime Minister.
https://twitter.com/BorisJohnson/status/1204152954934177792?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1204152954934177792&ref_url=https://news.sky.com/story/general-election-johnson-and-corbyn-star-in-love-actually-and-mean-tweets-clips-to-sway-voters-11882737
(worryingly I could see Leo doing something even cringier than that)
Propped up by wee nicky. Doesn't bear thinking about they could do some damage to the countryyou want corbin to run the country?....
My God.
I pity the UK people for having this guy as the next potential PM. I wouldn’t trust the guy with anything, he’s just out to look after himself.
Corbyn is completely unconvincing, it’s such a poor contest.
If would certainly vote Lib Dem if I were in the UK.
We aren’t blessed with great leadership here in Ireland but I genuinely think we have much better politicians at or near the top here.
My God.
I pity the UK people for having this guy as the next potential PM. I wouldn’t trust the guy with anything, he’s just out to look after himself.
Corbyn is completely unconvincing, it’s such a poor contest.
If would certainly vote Lib Dem if I were in the UK.
We aren’t blessed with great leadership here in Ireland but I genuinely think we have much better politicians at or near the top here.
We have had center right parties in power for as far back as the 1920's, there has never been a semblance of a left wing government in Ireland.I wouldn't vote Illiberal if I were in the UK.. too much damaging woke bull for me,
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/puberty-blocker-drug-firm-donated-cash-to-lib-dems-cf3x77nh3
The one thing you can say about Corbyn is that he has principles and you won't see him off making a millionaire of himself once he leaves office like that war-criminal Blair. He is an old fashioned socialist and that's fair enough if you're into utopian unicorns.
Boris has very few principles really and doesn't really hide that he wants the power and prestige. He does want lower taxes though and a competitive economy, we could do with a drop of that here and a bit of right wing government will be no harm this side of Europe to counterbalance all the left wing governments in every other country including here.
Unfortunately successful politicians are normally not very nice people. Boris seems to have a bit more of a common touch though especially with the female voter and if I was the lad in the ad I wouldn't let the missus answer the door again.
Have you a Brexit Party candidate in your constituency?If labour actually had a decent chap in there I could be tempted to give them my vote
Boris doesn't inspire confidence
Lid dems would never get my vote on the premise of their not respecting a democratic vote...
Tactical voting it will be
It's really hard to believe that when paying 48.5% tax. We don't really have left and right here, just a single party who are bleeding us dry and wasting our money.We have had center right parties in power for as far back as the 1920's, there has never been a semblance of a left wing government in Ireland.
Brexit,plaid, green ,independentHave you a Brexit Party candidate in your constituency?
It's really hard to believe that when paying 48.5% tax. We don't really have left and right here, just a single party who are bleeding us dry and wasting our money.
The reason I left them out was that I don't know if and what they were In the 2000s, before my time. But I do know what the income tax rates were down through the years.@Kieran97, Agree wholeheartedly about the public sector. There are a total of 2.317m employed people in Ireland in the latest figures. The figure has to be more than 12%, the OECD said 19.5% in 2014, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_public_sector.
Then you factor in indirectly employed sectors, e.g. the FAI , all the big accounting, architectural and legal practices take a huge % of their income from government funds, all the retired public servants on their big pensions they got by selling out their own colleagues, people on the state pension (629,000), illness benefit (393,000). You are right the public sector is too big. I think the country is in big trouble. The numbers working in the real private sector will not be able to afford those their taxes are supporting. Saying someone in the public sector contributes too is like saying that Dublin Bus pay road tax.
Why ignore USC and PRSI?? You don't have an option not to pay it. Between the two it makes up an 8.5% tax rate on all income, and this rises to 12% over €70k. The issue then with income tax is not what the top rate is (40%), its the low threshold that it kicks in at, €35,000. For every euro you make above that amount you only get 52.5cent, 48cent over 70k. This is in marked contrast to the UK where the tax rate is 20% from £12.5k up to £50k , 40% thereafter and social insurance is 12% from £8.5k to £50k and drops back to 2% after that.
You are right that our electoral system has caused this. I think our PR system is a lot of the reason as there are always minority parties in government and also there can never be a proper majority government. So everyone is always thinking short term to the next election, keep everyone happy, don't rock the boat, give their friends a few cushy jobs.
You are also right about the government debts but not about the cause of them in our case anyway. You're thinking why cut spending to give a tax cut to the rich, that's classic left thinking. Maybe if you cut tax people wouldn't need all the government handouts? They might have some of their own money. Keeping taxes high and spending more and more only breeds inefficiency, if the HSE had double the budget they'd be double the mess.
Anyway that's enough of that for the night. It's a pity Economics is not compulsory in schools. Your analogy of an economy being like a fire is so wrong, it's not something you have to keep stimulating or else it dies:confused3:. This ignores enterprise, one of the factors of production that is innate in people if not taxed and regulated out of existence. It's not your fault though, I blame whatever Marxist lecturer you had.
*banking"yes in our case it was the baking crisis"
What is there more snow due or summit?.............................................................