Win
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Why do a lemken have the edge on others, what's different?
Spring Barley - General Thread
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rustymcsocks
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For one the seed doesn't have far to travel when the ground wheel starts turning. Some models send it up over the hopper before it goes to the coulters.
The way the packer roller and the coulters and press wheels are all lined up to consolidate only where the seed. And like @CORK said the 12 rotor power harrow is very hard to beat
Win
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Does the hopper have two outlets?
Mid cork
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A lot of the ground we work is gravely with a lot of small stones. The big advantage I see is the roller has solid v shaped rings that run directly in front of the coulters pushing any stones or anything else down out of the way leaving a clear run for the coulters.
rustymcsocks
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Blackwater boy
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Is the lemken Harrow quite poor to bury stones? Lad that sows for us has a lemken now, he had a KB before and a rabe before that and definitely more stones on the surface with the lemken but the finish and establishment is far better with it than the previous drill
thorpe
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Lemken one pass drills are very popular around here and to be fair most lads cannot fault them. They can take some pounding but they still get the seed in the ground and the crop always appears but I have heard of a few issues with lads saying they had issues with seed placements and rates. Amazone & Kuhn would also be fair popular but Kverneland seem to be disappearing, the newest one I know of around here is 5 or 6 years old. A few new Horsch Pronto DC4 trailed drills also appeared locally this year and to be fair the also seem to be a fine piece of kit.
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Cork
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The extra two rotors certainly do a lot of tilling but are inclined to drag big stones along rather than let them through the harrow. Not sure about burying them or not.
Blackwater boy
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Has it 2 extra rotors over the KV harrow?
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Cork
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I don’t know. It’s 12 across the 3m.
rustymcsocks
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There is a leveling board between the rotors and packer roller that can be moved up and down. Up and soil and stones flow through easily, drop it down and it will hold soil more and leave a finer finish and bury stones more. Also consume more diesel too. Your man must have it up I'd say.
Mid cork
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No, the KV and Rabe have 12 as well.
KTM 450
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Can that be done from the cab or do you have to split the metering shaft manually?
rustymcsocks
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From the cab. Always have the fear that half the drill is shut do when you have half the field done. The old drill you had to get out and move a shutter.
Win
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That would be the advantage of press wheels giving each unit its own depth setting I suppose?
AYF
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No going back now!
Got 17 acres of Kelim done today. Using our 2.4m direct drill into ploughed ground. Long fields are good but by gosh they get boring after a while!
Had one minor misshap when a bolt fell out of the drills frame. A bit of bush mechanicing involving a Hilux, its bottle jack, and a strap got it fixed quick!
Masseyrk662
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We got no rain here at all during the week not even today. I see the last bit I sown is up today, only in the ground 8 days
DCol
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We have a 3m lemken seed and fert the last 5 years, yes does give a good finish, can't fault the power harrow, few annoying things on the sower though over the time, it's a solitair 8 so the metering system is a pure pain. The fert setup was an afterthought for them, the whole unit gets shipped to Scotland and a lad up there fits the extra bits.
ithastopay
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Lemken here for 10 seasons, the harrow does good work, of that there’s no doubt, tines are expensive, there was an issue a few years back with tines breaking, broken tines were replaced free of charge, that issue was sorted and the tines are better now.
The harrow can hold stones, depending on the direction of drive, clockwise or anti-clockwise, if rotor number 1, is turning anti-clockwise, rotor 12 will be turning clockwise, set this way the harrow will fire out stones to the sides, the side guards will wear faster we find and need to be set low in work, otherwise, it can leave an uneven finish. Set to run the in the opposite direction it tends to hold stones,
I hope this makes sense. Changing the direction of drive is fairly simple.
Crop establishment is very good, even in less than ideal conditions. I put up some pictures here of sowing wheat in November 2017, in less than poor conditions, had it been sown with our previous Kuhn one pass with Suffolk coulters, It would not have been as good a crop, it went on to yield over 4t. That’s not to advocate mucking in wheat, the lemken sowing system is a bit more tolerant of those unfavourable conditions.
We did have some issues with plant spacing in the rows at times, bunching is what we call it, we reduced forward speed seed placement is better and it’s no longer an issue.
We are happy with the lemken, we bought our second one last autumn.
The harrow can hold stones, depending on the direction of drive, clockwise or anti-clockwise, if rotor number 1, is turning anti-clockwise, rotor 12 will be turning clockwise, set this way the harrow will fire out stones to the sides, the side guards will wear faster we find and need to be set low in work, otherwise, it can leave an uneven finish. Set to run the in the opposite direction it tends to hold stones,
I hope this makes sense. Changing the direction of drive is fairly simple.
Crop establishment is very good, even in less than ideal conditions. I put up some pictures here of sowing wheat in November 2017, in less than poor conditions, had it been sown with our previous Kuhn one pass with Suffolk coulters, It would not have been as good a crop, it went on to yield over 4t. That’s not to advocate mucking in wheat, the lemken sowing system is a bit more tolerant of those unfavourable conditions.
We did have some issues with plant spacing in the rows at times, bunching is what we call it, we reduced forward speed seed placement is better and it’s no longer an issue.
We are happy with the lemken, we bought our second one last autumn.
rustymcsocks
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Another cause of that bunching you mention is having too many seed wheels going. The same amount of seed comes out but the seed wheel rotates slower with a larger amount of seed coming down with each revolution giving a bunching effect.
Stop a few seed wheels and up the gearbox speed gives a more even flow of seed.
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Paw
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3.5mm here. Heard they had an inch down Westbury country. Nothing over in Lincolnshire.
