Massey Ferguson

The high medium and low springs didn’t give trouble as much in the 4270 as the 399’s. The cab of the 4270 was a good bit better too and the diesel tank position of the 399 was ridiculous. Had a 399 baling before the 4270, there was no where to even leave a bottle of water in a 399
The cab of the 300 series really lacks storage alright, its even worse if ya have to bring lunch for the day with ya!
 
The 4365 we had was a good enough tractor if it had been limited to the work a 390T did problem was the all the machinery had stepped up a size by then .A 1000l 12m sprayer was workable , A 24 m 1200l is just over 2.5 tons loaded add 450kgs front weights and with a 6613 your at fully 7.5 tons gross .

Was the 390T / 390 reasonably comfortable with the 12m 1000l sprayer? I assume a few front weights were needed.

Who ever came up with the h m l on one stick should have been shot,woeful gearbox! Trying to set off with a heavy load you needed to be in medium then you’d lose momentum trying to get into high.:tdown:

Taken me 15 years to buy a Massey again,I loved the 12sp 3 stick it was a great gearbox,12x12 and 18sp were shite.:tdown:

That single gearstick would be one thing I could not see others getting on well with here and why a MF like that wouldn't be a runner even though they'd suit perfectly here to be honest.
 
Was the 390T / 390 reasonably comfortable with the 12m 1000l sprayer? I assume a few front weights were needed.



That single gearstick would be one thing I could not see others getting on well with here and why a MF like that wouldn't be a runner even though they'd suit perfectly here to be honest.
My late uncle bought a 4235 shortly after I bought my 4270, he never could get the hang of the gearbox and I had to rescue him off the road a few times when he knocked out of gear in the range selection by mistake and he was unable to find any gear.
 
Was the 390T / 390 reasonably comfortable with the 12m 1000l sprayer? I assume a few front weights were needed.



The 390 was slightly heavier having the fuel tank at the front , the first day out with 4365 once it was full I had to reverse up and spray down the first field thats when the can carrier was modified to a weight frame as well,,, finnished it painted and all then discovered the front wheels fouled the bastard thing at full lock , the mk2 version was made in double quick time.
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My late uncle bought a 4235 shortly after I bought my 4270, he never could get the hang of the gearbox and I had to rescue him off the road a few times when he knocked out of gear in the range selection by mistake and he was unable to find any gear.
Were the 4270's much of an improvement over the 399's?. Looks wise I always preferred the 399.
 
Were the 4270's much of an improvement over the 399's?. Looks wise I always preferred the 399.
I’d take a 4270 over a 399 any day anyway, just got rid of the last one 2 years ago, as I said we had 3 of them all on different occasions. Waiting for the father to get a notion again and buy another one, he maintains they were the best tractors he ever owned
 
Were the 4270's much of an improvement over the 399's?. Looks wise I always preferred the 399.
I didn't keep it too long, about 4 years, from my experience, a good engine, low down grunt was unbelievable, ok on fuel, cooling package was poor, vastly improved by fitting a copper rad, after the aluminum one leaked, and the bigger backend oil cooler, the auxiliary oil pump needed replacing, but the oil was contaminated by a f#€£!ng Deutz. A good tractor, but very light, a glorified 165 with a 6cyl and modern cab.
 
Here’s the 3 70’d we used to own, all 98 reg, All the gear stick with high medium and low. They could probably be described as the ideal cheap tractor for a stock man that wants to do his own work
 

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Here’s the 3 70’d we used to own, all 98 reg, All the gear stick with high medium and low. They could probably be described as the ideal cheap tractor for a stock man that wants to do his own work

Would you count the 42 series better than the 43 series ?
One lad told me that there was more power in a 42 , as emissions strangled the 43 series.

I like the 4270 with the Rossmore 80 . Nice outfit. Wouldnt mind something like that myself.
 
We run a 6470 sisu here as some of ye may know .they are a superb tractor I would rate it a good bit better than our 6480 sisu we have thrown everything at it and it still comes out smelling of Rose's.i would rate the speed shift 5455 as the worst tractor that we run .4235 and the 300s would be a nicer tractor .there is a 6270 here as well it's good but getting tired now
 
Would you count the 42 series better than the 43 series ?
One lad told me that there was more power in a 42 , as emissions strangled the 43 series.

I like the 4270 with the Rossmore 80 . Nice outfit. Wouldnt mind something like that myself.
To be honest I can’t rate the 43’s at all because we never had one, but I do know lads that had 43’s and they wouldn’t rate them at all, I think the shuttles gave a bit of trouble in them. That 70 with the loader was a grand setup alright, bought it in 2015 and sold it in 2018 as a cheap 66 came up for sale
 
We run a 6470 sisu here as some of ye may know .they are a superb tractor I would rate it a good bit better than our 6480 sisu we have thrown everything at it and it still comes out smelling of Rose's.i would rate the speed shift 5455 as the worst tractor that we run .4235 and the 300s would be a nicer tractor .there is a 6270 here as well it's good but getting tired now
6270 super tractor too
 
Would the dyna-4 gearbox be a big step up from the speedshift gearbox in the 5455?
It is a much nicer gearbox to use, but no more gears and usually 40K so gaps between them will be big, will also use a small bit more power than the speedshift. If your 5455 is also 40K you wouldn't see any real difference in the gear spacing, but the dyna4 will be so much nicer to use.
 
It is a much nicer gearbox to use, but no more gears and usually 40K so gaps between them will be big, will also use a small bit more power than the speedshift. If your 5455 is also 40K you wouldn't see any real difference in the gear spacing, but the dyna4 will be so much nicer to use.
Thanks for that. Just something I've been curious about. I don't have one but have always thought they were a lovely stockman's tractor
 
Was the 390T / 390 reasonably comfortable with the 12m 1000l sprayer? I assume a few front weights were needed.
from our own experience the old 390 wasn't bad with the hardi its 1000l 12m and hyd folding but we'd drop the volume down when sparying with row crops on the 390t we got this year it ligher on the front think we are at 250 kg up front now and need more. the lift arms are a few inches longer so that is making a big difference
 
To be honest I can’t rate the 43’s at all because we never had one, but I do know lads that had 43’s and they wouldn’t rate them at all, I think the shuttles gave a bit of trouble in them. That 70 with the loader was a grand setup alright, bought it in 2015 and sold it in 2018 as a cheap 66 came up for sale

Massey lost serious market share to John Deere at the time of the 42s and 43s. They were massively inferior to the JD 6000/6010 series.
Persisting with the 100 series back end was a serious mistake too and meant most arable farmers had to overlook the series.
The Coventry factory was on the way out too so the build quality was questionable aswell.
 
There's some very well priced mfs on donedeal at the moment in the 6200 and 6400 series. Some very clean models with <7000 hours. Some value to be had in the north if you knew the machine ins and outs to be able to check it out.

All under €25k Inc vat


https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/massey-ferguson-6265-front-links-amp-pto/11825858

https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/massey-ferguson-6455-dyna-6/24670634

https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/2005-mf-6465/24393034

When you think about what a new 110 to 120 hp tractor would set you back, these should be ideal stockman's tractors
 
Massey lost serious market share to John Deere at the time of the 42s and 43s. They were massively inferior to the JD 6000/6010 series.
Persisting with the 100 series back end was a serious mistake too and meant most arable farmers had to overlook the series.
The Coventry factory was on the way out too so the build quality was questionable aswell.
I think the dealers were the problem in them years, Massey also had the 6100/8100 6200/8200 series in the same period as John deeres 00 and 10 series. When dad bought the 4270 he said he was trying to buy a 6180 but the dealer said they were too complicated to work with so pushed the 4270, although dad stayed with the MF a few years before another tillage man in the area tried to buy a 3080 or 3090 very modern tractor for there time in comparison to the likes or JD in the same period. However like that the same dealer insisted that series were too complicated And would only sell him a 399, the same man then went and bought a valmet and has been buying them since
 
I think the dealers were the problem in them years, Massey also had the 6100/8100 6200/8200 series in the same period as John deeres 00 and 10 series. When dad bought the 4270 he said he was trying to buy a 6180 but the dealer said they were too complicated to work with so pushed the 4270, although dad stayed with the MF a few years before another tillage man in the area tried to buy a 3080 or 3090 very modern tractor for there time in comparison to the likes or JD in the same period. However like that the same dealer insisted that series were too complicated And would only sell him a 399, the same man then went and bought a valmet and has been buying them since

For sure the 3000/6000 series would be a better match for the deere but the electrics in them were deplorable and notoriously unreliable
 
I think the dealers were the problem in them years, Massey also had the 6100/8100 6200/8200 series in the same period as John deeres 00 and 10 series. When dad bought the 4270 he said he was trying to buy a 6180 but the dealer said they were too complicated to work with so pushed the 4270, although dad stayed with the MF a few years before another tillage man in the area tried to buy a 3080 or 3090 very modern tractor for there time in comparison to the likes or JD in the same period. However like that the same dealer insisted that series were too complicated And would only sell him a 399, the same man then went and bought a valmet and has been buying them since
all mf dealers seem to be like that. when my neighbour went to buy a 6480 back in 05, was when the dyna 6 box first came onto the scene. neighbour was tempted by it but the salesman said get the dynashift as dyna 6 was an unproven box but i think my neighbour was happy with the salesman that time. still has that 6480, granted not many hours on her for a 05
 
Would you not go for a 6 pot?

No would be avoiding a 6 pot here as its a loader tractor we’l be buying

We run a 6470 sisu here as some of ye may know .they are a superb tractor I would rate it a good bit better than our 6480 sisu we have thrown everything at it and it still comes out smelling of Rose's.i would rate the speed shift 5455 as the worst tractor that we run .4235 and the 300s would be a nicer tractor .there is a 6270 here as well it's good but getting tired now
Running a 5455 speedshift as the main tractor here can vouch for the worst tractor part alright, that power shuttle is very frustrating and the tractor itself hasnt been without its bother, just hitting 12000 hours now all the same so alot to be said for it too but no comfort in the tractor
 
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