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  1. Mf240

    Mf240 Well-Known Member

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    If this winter is six and a half months long then it's game over for a lot of lads
     
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    My Grandfather use to say of rape/kale, one day in July is worth a week in August and the week in August is worth the whole of September.
     
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  3. Blackwater boy

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    Gorilla hybrid rape in 8 days. A very very rough establishment job but it does not seem to mind
     
  4. nashmach

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    That's for green cover purposes I assume BB?
     
  5. Blackwater boy

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    No that stuff is not, it’s for weanlings in November hopefully, keep them out for a few weeks before housing in December sometime.
    I have glas stuff to sow during the week.
     
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    Rape should be ok sown till end of september
     
  7. Ugo Schtiglitz

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    Yeah. Some whitened leaf edges on rape in particular. Used allister flex in previous wheat. Have a three way establishment trial going. Stubble rake and broadcast off roller. Cultus and broadcast off roller and just broadcast off roller. It's more evident in the disturbed ground....maybe reactivated some active...i dunno. Slugs more of an issue at the mo. And that was a dry year. Slimy hoors.
     
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    The late sown gorilla is very uneven.
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    And the odd one is being attacked by soil borne pests.
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    A field of interval fodder rape I came across today, sown the 3rd of August. Very impressive
     
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    14 days in. Going to plan.
     
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    Probably getting near writing it off here
     
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    The Redstart is slowing down, it doesn't seem to be as upright as the Interval and more leafy, or is it just that it was sown 3 weeks later.
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    I cut the westerwolds Wednesday pm, tedded them out in the dark(the field did not blow up as I was expecting by the comments), baled last night. 6 bales an acre, 900kgs per bale as I weighed a load. dM was low at a guess 23%, a few weeds in it alright to bulk it up. That’s 3T of DM per ha, impressive considering it was sown the 26th of July.
     
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    Roughly how much fert did it get @Blackwater boy ?
     
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    Ah about 2500 gallons an acre of slurry, 1.5 bags of 24-2.5-10 and 1 bag of Sul can so around 75-80 units total. I tested it for nitrogen Wednesday morn, it was a bit high but with the forecast and the fact it was heading out I had no choice. I’ll give it 1.5 bags of 0-7-30 and 40 units of N again and hope to cut again in 6/7 weeks
     
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    Hard to find the right balance in such a short growing window especially when the growth mightnt be as vigorous or even as earlier in the year.
     
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    Longterm would you consider using it every year? Or is it a pure stopgap for now?
     
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    A couple of people was asking me about zero grazing forage rape instead of grazing it. Would it work much the same way as zero grazing grass? @Bog Man mentioned before about making beet top silage. Would rape work the same way in the silage pit?
     
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    With the DM of forage rape being so low, If It was pitted wouldnt runoff be a concern?

    I've heard of some being wrapped in the past week but what it was or will be like I dont know.
     
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    Rape on it's own will turn to dung
     
  23. Peter

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    If it was mixed with grass should it help?
     
  24. marco

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    Definitely, it would bring up the dmd anyways, might want to look at an additive
     
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    I seen a lad zero grazing what looks like fodder rape near Goresbridge yesterday, I'd imagine it's being fed straight from the wagon as it seemed like there was a round cut the previous day.
     
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