Arthur
Well-Known Member
I thought it had dropped another 5c..:scratchhead:Price has stopped falling has it not. I don't know.
Extra cattle being killed this week.
I thought it had dropped another 5c..:scratchhead:Price has stopped falling has it not. I don't know.
Extra cattle being killed this week.
So for a 2 week shut down, what has been achieved. All the talk is for bits and pieces of mickey mouse stuff. IMO the average price of beef wont change a cent. If some lad makes a few quid more for easing of specs, base price will be dropped a few cents to cater for it. Most guys will have lost 3 weeks kill either protesting or not passing the pickets and I didnt think Beefplan would throw in the towel so easy, so very few cattle killed this week as most taught they would be back protesting. price back 10c - 15c in those 3 weeks (dont know next weeks price yet?). the protest would want to deliver allot to cover, not moving downwards with a market.
Too many cattle around mainly because of extra calves since abolition of milk quota. Market for beef is depressed.What do you lads see as being the problem currently?
What is happening that farmers aren't making money?
70 years of political maneuvering on a global scale to ensure cheap food for the masses. Farmers will be given just enough to survive, the price of food will stay relatively low and there will be no riots on the streets over a lack of sliced pans. It's not an exclusively Irish issue, any farmer in any country in the Western World has the same problem.What do you lads see as being the problem currently?
What is happening that farmers aren't making money?
Do you have any solution?Too many cattle around mainly because of extra calves since abolition of milk quota. Market for beef is depressed.
What would be a solution to that? What outcome would you be happy with?70 years of political maneuvering on a global scale to ensure cheap food for the masses. Farmers will be given just enough to survive, the price of food will stay relatively low and there will be no riots on the streets over a lack of sliced pans. It's not an exclusively Irish issue, any farmer in any country in the Western World has the same problem.
In relation to beef prices of my philospophy of life in general?What would be a solution to that? What outcome would you be happy with?
Our own taosach would be less out of place going around with duffys circus then he would be the position he's in now.Our own taoisach was advising people to make an effort cutting back meat on the news a few months ago.. we need less calves being born or get the poorer calves exported asap.. or find a decent salesman and give him a carbon friendly product to sell.
You tell me. Apparently according to you food is at rock bottom prices, it's all a government conspiracy, what do you want to do about it?In relation to beef prices of my philospophy of life in general?
Nothing quells the pangs of revolutionism quite like a spicy chicken roll and a Netflix subscription
Well what would you like to do about it?Nothing quells the pangs of revolutionism quite like a spicy chicken roll and a Netflix subscription
I don't get your point? I'm asking what can we do, what would you do, to make things better for ourselves.
Do you have any solution?
no grain for the calves I rear myself. Was a few bob in them, but not so sure this year at €3.50. My Mortality is way too high and it only causes issues from day 120 onwards for some unknown reason. lost 4% of them again a few weeks ago with respiratory infection even though vaccinated, in isolated land block. too much work and getting too much of a hole kicking from sick calves. cost 230 this year, would have to be back to 150 next year to make me consider them. Too many good calves pumped on whole milk turn into bad calves later in life, too hit and miss, breeding is way off the mark
5% would be a mortality rate with suckler bred weanlings up to 9 months old. We are all farmers. We work hard to mind calves and ensure their wellbeing, but its inevitable. We calve over 50 suckler cows every year and it's rare that all calves will make it that far. So 4% shouldn't really be a deal breaker or are you talking about an extra 4% on top of mortality that has already occurred? You might think I'm a stranger to dairy calves, but we milked cows up to the late 90's and for several years after that, we kept an old stall milking machine and milked a few cows to feed batches of bought in dairy calves. We found that the secret to maintaining a healthy calf was to continue feeding a small amount of meal throughout the summer months. It not only ensured less health problems, but it also paid dividends on the other side with weight gain.
I've asked this question before, if there is no specific market for purely grass fed(which is supposed to have health benefits) why do we have to tick a box on the producer form saying no meals fed if its all going the one route, I suspect the factories have a niche outlet that gives a better return and they are happy to pocket the benefit and treat us producers all the same and also simplify what they have to display on the sales docket. Also Beef plan should have pushed further on what returns come from the fifth quarter, as it stands they get it for free.It would seem that Beef plan have their own agenda of protecting suckler, which may be a precursor to increasing sp to suckler farmers which I'm fine with except, i buy calves every year and i get the feeling that beef plan, or bord bia for that matter, dont see my grass fed product as a value product. Why? I suspect too many cheap cuts but i ve been wrong before..
There was a mention of a market just this past spring of a €5 /kg for my product, but the factories had no interest in pursuing it.. why ? Why couldn't bord bia or beef plan highlight it more. ? Is there anybody on here, know anymore about it ? It would seem to me, the nice salesmen in bordbia are not on commission ,which is counterproductive in my mind.
Did you not see all the steak awards Irish factories won recently, all for grassfed steaks aswellI've asked this question before, if there is no specific market for purely grass fed(which is supposed to have health benefits) why do we have to tick a box on the producer form saying no meals fed if its all going the one route, I suspect the factories have a niche outlet that gives a better return and they are happy to pocket the benefit and treat us producers all the same and also simplify what they have to display on the sales docket. Also Beef plan should have pushed further on what returns come from the fifth quarter, as it stands they get it for free.
I did indeed, ABP at the top of the pile..Did you not see all the steak awards Irish factories won recently, all for grassfed steaks aswell
From my experience.. wet grass = trouble, for young stock. I compensate for this with a second feed in the evening. I always feed a kg in morning when worms are at the top of the grass. No birds, either. Wish i could say same for sheds in winterNo mucky, lost 4% last week alone. I would usual expect that if I bought 105 healthy calves at 30 days old, you would slaughter 100 at 20 months.
Calves were ahead of target. I'm not a fan of grain at grass due to number of birds it draws around the place. Good grass is identical to meals
With sucklers I used reckon if you had 90% of good calves to sell to total number of cows, you were going well.