Interesting points indeed , possibly falls down a bit where it says brixitears didn't think there would be consequences .
Bit disappointed with your last paragraph , the constant banging the drum that all leavers are , thick ,racists or whatever isn't helpful, and just because the figures arnt adding up in your head doesn't make it wrong . Not everything in black and white makes sense and like I said before theres more to life than money .
On a side note I always think people have an alternative motive for the way they vote , would I be right in thinking that when we leave and theres a bit of a squeeze in everyone's pocket some things might go on the back burner , like putting food on the table more important than spending a bit more on more niche upmarket products that are more "ethically " produced ?
True . However we have young Kieran telling us how manufacturing is out and high end jobs are in which is fine but if you've struggled all your life and never managed the opportunity to get a degree these jobs might be a bit out of reach for you , and thanks to the the EU and and artical 11 and 13 voted in by mep's that have no understanding of it , making money on YouTube and insta has got a whole lot harder , thanx to pewdipie and the likes the YouTube bubble has burst
I never said manufacturing was out. I said that the manufacturing was never going to return to the heights it had. And brexit was never going to bring this about anyways. If the economy does sugger, how does the government generate money for public services such as healthcare, education and defence? The issue isnt individuals feeling the pinch out of this. Its schools, hospitals, the police, the council. Childrens education wjll suffer. Hospitals will suffer. A reduction in gdp will mean a reduction in funding for public services. The NHS wont get 350 million a week. It too will suffer.
You talk about food. Jacob rees mogg wants to bring in hormone fed beef from America because its half the price of the much higher quality produce produced by British farmers. A customs union is one of the few ways to prevent this happening. The only way for british farmers to compete in such circumstances is to follow suit, and i dont think the use of hormones is something british farmers would br comfortable with.
The notion that the UK was going to have its secondary industrial revolution as a result of brexit was a fantasy. Even James Dyson, a brexiteer, is moving operations to singapore.
The seeds were sown for the decline of UK manufacturing industry in the 1950s and 60s, before the days of the EU. I watched a documentary on British Leyland lately, because in developing a full field of view of circumstances, i wanted to see what went wrong. In the time british leyland spent 70 million on R and D, volkswagen spent 300 million. They fell behind and could never catch up. If leaving the EU is the answer to stimulating your manufacturing industry, why hasn't Germany left the EU?
In studying engineering, i will probably end up in some form of manufacturing. My engineering placement was as a manufacturing engineer with Conor.
What i said that the UK has moved to a services based economy, as has Ireland, although not to quite the same degree. Services doesnt mean high end. Services refers to tourism, restaurants etc. If you want to get into manufacturing, you've an infinitely better chance of doing it inside the EU rather than outside.
Brexit was promised as a Utopia that would solve all problems when it simply can not be. In fact, a lot of the 38000 jobs in car manufacturing in the UK have been put at risk by Brexit. Airbus thinking of leaving. Bmw unsteady about the oxford plant.
Also, the "EU" werent solely to blame for article 13. Several labour and conservative voters voted for this.
I can tell by your tone, you voted leave cause youre pissed off with the status quo and want a change. I get that. I appreciate the problems you see, but i fail to see how leaving the EU is the answer.
I respect the fact that you realise Brexit will not deliver the sunlit economic uplands promised by Farage and his crew. My gripe is that if the electorate knew then what you know now, is this something they still would have voted for? I can understand the political and sovereign reasons behind brexit and empathise with them. The EU is far from perfect. But the move to leave was pushed by economic falsehoods.
Democracy is great. Just dont shit on your people by lying to them.