Fertilizer Price Tracker

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  1. Blackwater boy

    Blackwater boy Moderator

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    Some good story about the Rhine or Danube being low and they couldn’t get it out of where ever on boats-this actually translates into “we are going to ride ye sideways just because we feel like it”....
     
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    Yes
     
  3. gone

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    I have for the last 3 years and got on very well with it. K&N for 2 of the years and Target's version last year, I get on very well with it and will try to use it again.
     
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    Lads do ye know what's the difference between KAN 46%N and GEN 46%N?
    There's 20e a tonne of a difference between the two brands with kan being the dearer fertiliser
     
  5. Blackwater boy

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    Both are treated urea but I think Teagasc did a trial and their results showed the KAN product was by the best, the GEN performed poor enough I think, ie far higher losses of ammonia
     
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    Different inhibitors, KAN uses nbpt which is the one you want.
     
  7. degetme

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    Ya i wasn't too sure. KAN it is so. Gen is a good bit cheaper . Are dairygold the only company selling KAN?
     
  8. Ugo Schtiglitz

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    If you have a google of teagasc trials on this. Some of the inhibitors are better than others. The nbpt coating is the one you want. Other brands are available.
     
  9. Green Grass

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    Kerry prices cash up front
    18's €385
    urea €380
    can €280
    pasture€380
    10-10-20€420
     
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    Got on very well on grassland .not as good on the winter barley. Don't know why
     
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    Haven’t gone down the protected urea route yet as last time I looked at price in cereals, the saving was very modest.
    Less tonnes to be spread vs CAN though which is an advantage.
    At least with CAN, you know what you get in terms of response. The protected stuff would want to be much cheaper before I go that way.
    Only two types of fert here for the year ahead. CAN+S and a high K compound also with sulphur.
     
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    It is a bit slow working so you have to change the amounts and the timings. I go early with standard NPK compound, something like 12-5-25+S then come back around mid March with about 250kg/ha of K&N 40N+S and then top up fully before gs31.
     
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    Now that makes sense. Brett the guy that's their rep couldn't give me a definite answer. Thanks @gone
     
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    Constantly hearing that protected Urea is very bad for soil biology :undecided:
     
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    Less tonnage to be spread ok but I found being bulky my spreader actually only held the same unit's as can so no further on really.
     
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    Local merchant in galway talked similar prices today when I went to forward pay for half of what we will use today. He is in the process of setting up storage for handling bulk fertilizer which he says will allow him to do some better prices for fertilizer collected from his yard. It will mean that we will have to invest in a new spreader if we are going to go down that route and that might just not be financially viable for me this week.
     
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    Urea €380?
    Typo surely?
     
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    What do you think it should be?
     
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    Just bought an artic load for £285/t so €317.40/t delivery January pay Feb March and April,wouldn't do it for a penny less if I paid January,I did drive a hard bargain as he wanted £292.
     
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    Just quoted
    10.10.20 €405
    Sul-Can €295
    Big bag prices... don't know what thone prices are like
     
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    That €295 isn’t a bad price considering where things are now. What were the payment terms?

    I see prices fell a bit in the UK during the week.
     
  22. Mf240

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    When I started farming I'd be always pricing around and trying to work out how many tons of this type of fert and that type of fert I'd use in the year.

    Nowadays it not unusual for me to arrive in the co op still wondering what I want.
     
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    Fertiliser is slow moving these days as there is no real value to be had, it’s just too bloody expensive. I’m holding off until I actually want it
     
  24. Green Grass

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    Every one wants it then wont they and the merchant will add on another €10/20 a ton and knows well if you do not buy it ,somebody else will !!!
     
  25. Blackwater boy

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    Maybe, maybe not. If you keep talking like that then the price will definiately go up.
     
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