Grain prices

Sheebadog said:
All feed, grazed grass, forages and grains must be organically grown, hence no fertilizer and chemicals...take a read of the barley threads on here to see the amounts of chemicals used...
Did I read somewhere that the Italians are trying to gather top class organic stock in Ireland now??
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Top class stock are an endangered species here with the reduction in the suckler herd. Also the 'traditional' breeds a being pushed a lot as 'easy finished' which is fine if you're happy with a 300kg carcase.
 
Any idea when glanbia announce their Base price? The smaller merchants in the area seem to ways wait until the biggers ones set their price before they commit to anything, Barley prices of 135-140 being mentioned :-(
 
ts115 said:
Any idea when glanbia announce their Base price? The smaller merchants in the area seem to ways wait until the biggers ones set their price before they commit to anything, Barley prices of 135-140 being mentioned :-(
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The cynic in me says it won't be this week as they won't want the backlash.....

Same as last year seems to be the mantra.
 
CORK said:
Fair play to Dairygold for supporting the tillage sector. Those prices are well above the market.
Nobody will make a fortune out of growing grain at this level but it’s a move in the right direction.
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I agree to an extent but it's back to my hobby horse (which I won't go into again) of the coop supporting the price.

I'd have sympathy for the private buyers as well with this carry on going on. They will be forced to try and match the overall price now yet these are the guys that are needed for competition and in many cases have driven some specialist areas.

Back to the prices, with a malt differential of 15/t, I don't think many would be jumping about it.
 
nashmach said:
I agree to an extent but it's back to my hobby horse (which I won't go into again) of the coop supporting the price.

I'd have sympathy for the private buyers as well with this carry on going on. They will be forced to try and match the overall price now yet these are the guys that are needed for competition and in many cases have driven some specialist areas.

Back to the prices, with a malt differential of 15/t, I don't think many would be jumping about it.
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I think the malt price is very weak and also the beans.
Agree fully on the coop thing, private merchants in the Glanbia catchment are going to find the going tough I would think as they will more than likely pay a very poor green price and use a big top up then from the slush fund so the mill gets cheap grain and then give €24-30 a tonne rebate so the private lads will have a serious job to compete then
 
nashmach said:
I agree to an extent but it's back to my hobby horse (which I won't go into again) of the coop supporting the price.

I'd have sympathy for the private buyers as well with this carry on going on. They will be forced to try and match the overall price now yet these are the guys that are needed for competition and in many cases have driven some specialist areas.

Back to the prices, with a malt differential of 15/t, I don't think many would be jumping about it.
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I’ll beg to differ on the malt premium. Whilst it would be nice to get more, I’d grow malting for them all day long at this level. They were 100% Planet here this year (and last year) with very little rejection. It’s just like growing high yielding feed barley with no extra cost. No prescriptive growing protocols, no distilling requirements either. Very straightforward and always has been.

For the first time in a while, they even took extra from growers above contract tonnage and apparently will be giving 1/2 a premium on this. Another bonus. There’ll be no growers around here parting with their malting contracts.
 
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CORK said:
I’ll beg to differ on the malt premium. Whilst it would be nice to get more, I’d grow malting for them all day long at this level. They were 100% Planet here this year (and last year) with very little rejection. It’s just like growing high yielding feed barley with no extra cost. No prescriptive growing protocols, no distilling requirements either. Very straightforward and always has been.

For the first time in a while, they even took extra from growers above contract tonnage and apparently will be giving 1/2 a premium on this. Another bonus. There’ll be no growers around here parting with their malting contracts.
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Fair enough CORK but it was a very different story down here in Wexford, rejections were quite high down here and a lot more T&C's on it compared to what you say.
 
Looking for advice we had a contract for malt and distilling 100ton and 30 ton. All of our corn went in as surplus distilling this year. The issue I have is surplus is being paid less then contracted tonnage. Anyone else have this issue
 
padraig barron said:
Looking for advice we had a contract for malt and distilling 100ton and 30 ton. All of our corn went in as surplus distilling this year. The issue I have is surplus is being paid less then contracted tonnage. Anyone else have this issue
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Did it fail for malting and as a result go for distilling instead. who made the call to send it for distilling rather than malting?
 
Blackwater boy said:
Did it fail for malting and as a result go for distilling instead. who made the call to send it for distilling rather than malting?
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No distilling is a harder pass. They wanted it for distilling as it kept passing. But it is a euro a ton less than my contracted distilling. I know not alot but still it's bugging me
 
padraig barron said:
No distilling is a harder pass. They wanted it for distilling as it kept passing. But it is a euro a ton less than my contracted distilling. I know not alot but still it's bugging me
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So, you got your 30tn in at normal distilling price and the 90tn which was supposed to be brewing actually went for distilling also as opposed to brewing?
If so, how does the brewing price compare to the distilling price?
 
padraig barron said:
No distilling is a harder pass. They wanted it for distilling as it kept passing. But it is a euro a ton less than my contracted distilling. I know not alot but still it's bugging me
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Did it fail for malting so or did they say "hey lad that's ideal for distilling, we might just use it for distilling instead of malting so"?
 
We drew in 174
CORK said:
So, you got your 30tn in at normal distilling price and the 90tn which was supposed to be brewing actually went for distilling also as opposed to brewing?
If so, how does the brewing price compare to the distilling price?
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We drew in 174 ton in total. All of it went for distilling. Our 30 ton of contract was paid at 155 and something cent haven't the sheet to hand. Then the 144 ton went in as surplus at 154 and odd cent. Non went for brewing so I dont know
 
padraig barron said:
We drew in 174
We drew in 174 ton in total. All of it went for distilling. Our 30 ton of contract was paid at 155 and something cent haven't the sheet to hand. Then the 144 ton went in as surplus at 154 and odd cent. Non went for brewing so I dont know
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But was malt price more than distilling and by much? If malt was a good bit more valuable then I'd be annoyed. If distilling was more valuable than malt then you're winning all the way.
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