Greenhouse Gas Emissions

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  1. Bog Man

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    We use energy differently than we used to . Very few open fires using sticks or coal . When I moved into this house there were three different coal men doing deliveries along this road as well as a pile of sticks at every house being cut with a bushman and maybe a couple of bulbs in the house. The posher houses had a range running constantly all belching out smoke.
     
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    A bit of coal under some well seasoned timber can't be beaten for heat and a lively fire of a filthy winters night. Granted an open fire absolutely gobbles up fuel but when you've the timber for the cost of a gallon of petrol in the chainsaw you don't mind so much. The best firing of all is Bogdale. I've often had the firegrate glowing pink with the heat from a bogdale fired fire.
     
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  4. BasilSeal

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    Good question.

    there's a book by a guy called Simon Fairlie called meat, a benign extravagance that has a section on climate change and ruminants.

    The main greenhouse gas associated with livestock is methane, obviously, but we normally think of CO2 as the main green house gas. Methane survives in the atmosphere for a much sorter time, from memory tens of years compared to hundreds for CO2, but, it's a much more potent warming gas.

    this raises several issues, first, comparing methane to CO2 is comparing apples to oranges, but scientists try to express the warming power of methane as an equivalent of 1kg of CO2, but the equivalence is not an exact science, so the figure is an arbitrary one. also, because methane is both short lived and more potent, removing methane from the equation has a potentially bigger and more immediate effect. The metaphor i heard used was that if you are warming up a room with both blow torches and hot water bottles, if the room is getting too hot, it makes sense to move the blow lamps out first, but the blow lamps go out very quickly, where as the hot water bottles stay hot for a long while, and even if you slow down the rate of warming by moving all the blow lamps, if you don't also move the hot water bottles, eventually it will end up too hot again, and this time it will be all down to the hot water bottles, and there will be no quick fix.

    this is the issue with climate change, there have always been cattle, the methane emissions have not mattered because we weren't burning fossil fuels as well, now we are, and climate change is beginning to kick in, we start looking at the cows because politicians thing that people will give up their steak before they give up their cars. they're probably right.
     
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  8. farmerjack

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    Little Greta the climate angel can't answer a simple question about the main reason of her protest. Never mind having her childhood stolen, someone stole her script.

     
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  12. CORK

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    I for one have got complete climate change fatigue.

    it seems to be dominating everything online and the media.

    I’m slowly getting to the point where I couldn’t give a rats arse about it.

    I don’t read or listen to anything relating to it anymore as most commentary is based on opinion.
     
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  13. CORK

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    it won’t bother me as I won’t be listening.
     
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  14. CORK

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    Gosh you’re really selling it to me......
     
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    :sleep::sleep::sleep::sleep:
     
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    Though your land is coastal, you not afraid of been washed away and ending up in America with Trump
     
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  17. CORK

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    I don’t think Trump deserves that....:lol:
     
  18. nashmach

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    Would it be different if it was Jean or Siobhan :kiss:
     
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    I say he would not mind been washed out to sea with them and ending up on a little island
     
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    Surely the very thought of sea levels rising and flooding all that fine land around Shanagarry would concern you!!⛵️
     
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    Global warming targets and calculations have been set by big business.
    The only issue causing global warming is that the world is using 1 billion years of carbon deposits, (oil, gas, coal, etc) every year, that is not sustainable.
    While agriculture contributes to this insane addiction in a small way through it's oil use, plastic use, fert use and chemical use, this stupidity of counting natural emissions like bovine methane emissions is only a distraction tactic.
    If bovine emissions are an issue, (and THEY ARE NOT) then it would be good for the environment if army went to the Serengeti and slaughtered the wildlife, or it was good for the environment that the 60 million bison in north America were wiped out.
     
  22. farmerjack

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    Al Gore and Obama aren’t afraid anyway as they both bought seaside mansions and all the crying Gore did about the ice melting.
     
  23. farmerjack

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    As Greta says listen to the scientists.

     
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  24. CORK

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    By God I won’t be listening to him anyway.

    I honestly couldn’t be listening to any more environmentalists, every half educated stay at home mom is an environmental +/- antivax expert nowadays.

    I’ll not have my life influenced by them.
     
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  25. CORK

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    nah, I’ll find something else for that
     

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