Irish Presidential Election

I thought it was about the best of the debates so far. Tbf it is arguable over the traveller issue that the rest of them are being yes men to the pc brigade. At the same time I dont think this Donald Trump style say it as he feels thing that Peter Casey is going for will wash with the Irish electorate. But at least he has the bottle to stick by his views, even if they are unpopular with many.

At the same time i felt he was one of the weaker in that debate. He didn't really construct his arguments or clarify what he had to say very well, and one sort of got the notion that when Kenny put the question to him, he was like a deer caught in headlights.

Gavin Duffy doesn't really seem to have any identifiable policies. He seemed to be the best at beating around the Bush.

Gallagher is like padraig flynn in my opinion. At any moment the show will fall apart when his ability gives way to arrogance. Can't understand why he didn't attend the Clare Byrne debate.

Liadh ni Riada. Every Irish man has a degree of republicanism in him but its not all consuming in me. Also i think socialism is bs.

Something about this loan Joan freeman has doesn't wash with me. She doesn't strike me as having the charisma of a statesperson either.

I wouldn't be a Labour fan but of all the candidates Michael D seems unchallenged.
 
listening to Ni Riada on the radio this morning was funny, started out questioning michael D as being partisan and then went on a full on sinn fein ramble. her idea of being non partisan would be to wear the poppy, under protest pretty much, and maybe actually "the shamrock poppy" whatever that is.
 
Leo said he wants a clear message. Rural dwellers should send him one, vote Casey. we are not “racist” for disagreeing with the pc nonsense we have to endure while having the constant bother and worry of our farms and homes being under attack from this “ethnic minority”. He won’t win but it will open the debate for some home truths.
 
Just finished reading the RTE live feed, from that it looked like no real hard blows landed.

I still think Peter Casey will do better than expected and Michael D worse but all others around the same.

Does anybody know what is the percentage a candidate needs to get to recoup their expenses??
 
Just finished reading the RTE live feed, from that it looked like no real hard blows landed.

I still think Peter Casey will do better than expected and Michael D worse but all others around the same.

Does anybody know what is the percentage a candidate needs to get to recoup their expenses??
I think there is a deposit to be paid of 500 euro, before you are added to the list.
If you get over a certin % of the vote, you get this back. (5% I think)
If you get over 20% you can claim back your expensis from the State, up to 200,000 euro.
 
I think there is a deposit to be paid of 500 euro, before you are added to the list.
If you get over a certin % of the vote, you get this back. (5% I think)
If you get over 20% you can claim back your expensis from the State, up to 200,000 euro.

So basically none of them barring Michael D will get back their expenses then. Given the lackluster nature of the campaign and how irrelevant the whole thing was, I'm glad.
 
The debate last night was similar to watching Podge and Rodge multiplied by 3...not too many compliments handed out. Desperation among adults...Peter Casey seemed to be enjoying himself watching the goons either side scrambling for fifth and sixth position.
Michael D will get the job, Casey will get second position from what I can make out. The rest will serve the tea and coffee at the winners celebrations. I'd say other countries are watching the debate with similar interest to Big Brother celebrity style shows. Not the finest display for the Irish.
 
I was told a few years ago that a certain candidate could bring the govt down as let’s just say he was more interested in his driver. I was told this by a FG TD!
 
I've find myself very disconnected from this election, president Higgins has been a good president imv, he's done a good job, represented us well on the world scene and is respected, however he did say he would not seek a second term, many say one is entitled to a change of mind, I agree in general, but in the case of a person putting themselves forward for public office, I consider it a break of promise, in short while I've been proud of our president I believe he will be too old to carry out his duties in the coming years, is that ageism, yes, In the same way I don't believe my 2 year old should be president nor should a 15 year old or in my view anyone under the age of 40.
Getting old and passing on are facts of life.
I'm disappointed with the president for choosing to run again.
Its time for someone else, the candidates that have put themselves forward this year are a very poor reflection on our country.

Friday will be a sad day for this country,
there going to be a very poor turnout, people are disconnected from the campaign, if there were any half decent candidate to challenge him they could win, there are more able people on here than there are running, most of whom are running, if they were members in here they'd surely have got a ban...
Higgins will win.
 
I’m thinking that anyone who had a real chance of running took a step back as they know MD would be hard to beat.

Perhaps they’re keeping their powder dry till next time around when he won’t be in the running.

What are my chances next time around? I’d say the Phoenix Park would grow a smashing crop of wheat.
 
The rumours mentioned above are pretty widely known.
1. I don't think they have anything to do with the election
2. The media are not willing to delve into it very much apart from broad allusions
3. I think it could be very dodgy territory for a forum like this to be bringing them up from anlegal standpoint
 
As someone said to me a while back, "vote MD in, at least he'll be overpaid for a job and not overpaid with a pension for been president and we still have to pay anothers presidential wage". Makes sense to me anyway mind you if I was in charge we wouldn't have a president and a Taoiseach. It'd be one or the other simple as that. It's bollix that in this tiny country all the dead weight we have to carry at the top.
 
I’m thinking that anyone who had a real chance of running took a step back as they know MD would be hard to beat.

Perhaps they’re keeping their powder dry till next time around when he won’t be in the running.

What are my chances next time around? I’d say the Phoenix Park would grow a smashing crop of wheat.
WHEAT ! Forget that man bale it for silage for the poor dairy farmers :lol::lol::ban:
 
My views on it are Simple enough
1 no decent opposition all seem self serving.
2 anyone we vote for needs to put the best face forward for the country we've been lucky with our last few presidents in general with this i wouldn't of been micky d biggest fan last time but he's Done a good job
3 putting micky d back saves paying out another pension
4 only thing people have really been able to poke holes are were his costs i doubt any of them would be any better
 
If Michael D hadn't to run this time who would have FF,FG and Labour proposed as candidates? FF Bertie? There's not a hope in hell I'd have voted for him. FG John Bruton? I'd reckon he'd be a decent candidate for the Aras. There's no one from Labour that I can think of at the moment.
I watched about half of the Prime Time "debate" and it seemed to me that all 5 of the candidates wanted to do was throw cheap shots at each other, Mr Higgins was relatively quiet but maybe the bickering wasn't his thing and he refrained from getting involved.
 
If Michael D hadn't to run this time who would have FF,FG and Labour proposed as candidates? FF Bertie? There's not a hope in hell I'd have voted for him. FG John Bruton? I'd reckon he'd be a decent candidate for the Aras. There's no one from Labour that I can think of at the moment.
I watched about half of the Prime Time "debate" and it seemed to me that all 5 of the candidates wanted to do was throw cheap shots at each other, Mr Higgins was relatively quiet but maybe the bickering wasn't his thing and he refrained from getting involved.

Even if there was a general election in the morning there's no one to vote for imo
 
If Michael D hadn't to run this time who would have FF,FG and Labour proposed as candidates? FF Bertie? There's not a hope in hell I'd have voted for him. FG John Bruton? I'd reckon he'd be a decent candidate for the Aras. There's no one from Labour that I can think of at the moment.
I watched about half of the Prime Time "debate" and it seemed to me that all 5 of the candidates wanted to do was throw cheap shots at each other, Mr Higgins was relatively quiet but maybe the bickering wasn't his thing and he refrained from getting involved.
Cant see FF ever putting Ahern forward tbh, and I doubt he would want to have all his past dealings dragged into the limelight either
You would hope that there is more like McAleese and Robinson out there.
 
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