Kidd double chop harvester

Discussion in 'Machinery Matters' started by Supertwo, Oct 13, 2018.

  1. jpt

    jpt Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2011
    Messages:
    2,355
    Location:
    Midwest
    Thought it was the Taarup that had the threaded adjusters,the Kidd and NH were just bolted allowing the knifes slip back if anything was picked up.
     
    kverneland es 80 likes this.
  2. Arthur

    Arthur Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2013
    Messages:
    13,727
    Location:
    Munster
    The Kidd I used had shims and there was no way the knife could slip back, the flywheel would get bent if it got a good bang, the NH had screw adjusters but still did not allow the knife to retract, maybe they changed the setup later, it's about 40 years ago now.
     
  3. Titan 8820

    Titan 8820 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 5, 2011
    Messages:
    602
    Location:
    cork
    First double chop l drove was an all red affair MF 168 and a taarup.
    Cant remember if shims or bolts cos all l can recall about it was hot and noisy.
    Next up went all blue with a kidd on a 5000.
    It too was hot and noisy.
    Next move was a different kidd on a 7610 which was not quite so hot and a nice bit quieter.
    The final outfit reverted to red with a taarup and MF 399.

    On the kidd the knives were shimmed and the paddles in slotted holes.
    The taatup had threaded adjustment

    Pity Q cabs didnt come in 10 years earlier WHAT !
     
  4. mixed fleet

    mixed fleet Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2010
    Messages:
    1,844
    Location:
    midlands eire
    After a long apprenticeship with single chops, we really moved into the Big Time:rolleyes2::rolleyes2: with a 5' Taarup double Chop driven by a 2wd zetor crystal.
    Thought it was a pretty good harvester , at least it sent a good spray of grass into the trailer .
    It had a tendency to shave off banks in the fields. Clay is not what you want to see in silage .
    I bought the Taarup, second hand off a contractor in Roscommon .
    I remember asking him what "horses" would it take to drive it. ( He gave a good answer)
    80hp if your cutting your own.
    180hp if your cutting for hire.
     
    CoNaMi, 100-90DT, Peter and 5 others like this.
  5. nashmach

    nashmach Moderator

    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2010
    Messages:
    39,076
    Location:
    Wexford, Ireland
  6. Supertwo

    Supertwo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 12, 2017
    Messages:
    97
    Location:
    Co. Louth
    Was looking at that. I think thats the 3rd time it has been listed and the price hasnt changed. Hopefully ill get time to collect mine tomorrow. :Thumbp2:
     
  7. Mid cork

    Mid cork Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 25, 2016
    Messages:
    470
    Location:
    Cork
    Our first double chop was a Kidd driven by an MF178 it had shims to adjust the knifes which were auckward and the belly band was welded in place which was even worse.We had several Tarrups after which were a much better machine all round in my opinion.
     
  8. gmc541

    gmc541 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 19, 2011
    Messages:
    63
    Location:
    omagh
    Kidd 346-6 is what they are known as.
     
  9. wdah

    wdah Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 2, 2011
    Messages:
    2,417
    Location:
    tyrone
    we had one of them, I cant remember the 7710 ford on it but I remember it on 650 deutz, then we moved to a 339-still have it then a 342 but sold it, it didn't stay in the swath right dad thought. fj 900 ofther that but kept the nh as it was a fairly good one.
     
  10. Supertwo

    Supertwo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 12, 2017
    Messages:
    97
    Location:
    Co. Louth
    Got her home today, hope to get the spout off tomorrow evening and to get it into the shed for a proper examination :Thumbp2: 20181022_201843.jpg 20181022_181813.jpg 20181022_194348.jpg
     
  11. Supertwo

    Supertwo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 12, 2017
    Messages:
    97
    Location:
    Co. Louth
    How this supposed to work? Does it slip when it becomes overloaded or is it like a sprag clutch to save the tractor pto brake band when shutting off the pto? How do I check its working correctly? Thanks.
    20181027_180615.jpg
     
  12. SMID

    SMID Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2013
    Messages:
    2,863
    Location:
    East Ayrshire
    It should slip when the pto drive line torque rises above a set figure determined by the amount of pressure applied by by the bolts against the springs atm its probably seized solid needing dismantled and cleaned and reassembled.
     
    Supertwo and johndeere6920s like this.
  13. johndeere6920s

    johndeere6920s Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 21, 2013
    Messages:
    12,888
    Location:
    south west ireland
    As said above it will slip when you come under too much load.
    You can get the disks for them it's more than likely seized
     
    Supertwo likes this.
  14. Mike

    Mike Member

    Joined:
    Aug 26, 2009
    Messages:
    15,039
    Location:
    Kerry
    There isnt much adjustment left in them springs anyway
     
    johndeere6920s likes this.
  15. headcase

    headcase Very Senior Member

    Joined:
    Nov 26, 2009
    Messages:
    18,377
    Location:
    pembrokeshire
    If it was mine i would measure the length of the springs first

    Then slacken them off most of the way and start the pto with a block of wood in the knife drum so the clutch slips for 10 to 15 seconds to clean things up then retighten the springs up to eithe the book setting or where you slackened them off from
     
    Supertwo and 4255 like this.
  16. Supertwo

    Supertwo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 12, 2017
    Messages:
    97
    Location:
    Co. Louth
    Thanks guys, will post an update in a few days when im further along :Thumbp2:
     
  17. Wexfman

    Wexfman Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 11, 2017
    Messages:
    71
    We used to cut around 800 acres with a 6ft Kidd back in the early nineties. Drove it with a 150hp Ursus. One of the sweetest running machines we ever had in the place. 4 knives on the flywheel instead of 3 on the taarup dc 1500 we had before it. Not as robust as the taarup when the stone would go in though. If you get one will you post up a few photos please and thanks
     
  18. Supertwo

    Supertwo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 12, 2017
    Messages:
    97
    Location:
    Co. Louth
    There are some photos of it above. I will post some more during the week. What sort of acres were you clearing in a day with your one and the Ursus? I'll be sticking a 1255xl in front of mine. :Thumbp2:
     
  19. nashmach

    nashmach Moderator

    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2010
    Messages:
    39,076
    Location:
    Wexford, Ireland
    Was that the Ursus with the double radiator on it??

    Another very very tidy double chop.
    https://www.donedeal.ie/silageharvesters-for-sale/kidd-346-double-chop/20752388

    [​IMG]
     
  20. Supertwo

    Supertwo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 12, 2017
    Messages:
    97
    Location:
    Co. Louth
  21. nashmach

    nashmach Moderator

    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2010
    Messages:
    39,076
    Location:
    Wexford, Ireland
    Another one, 1500 I think. 20190211_165152_zpsrhdpu1wr.jpg
     
  22. nashmach

    nashmach Moderator

    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2010
    Messages:
    39,076
    Location:
    Wexford, Ireland
  23. holywell farmer

    holywell farmer Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 8, 2014
    Messages:
    2,040
    Location:
    holywell north wales
  24. Ptk44

    Ptk44 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 21, 2012
    Messages:
    1,204
    Location:
    Kildare Ireland
  25. nashmach

    nashmach Moderator

    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2010
    Messages:
    39,076
    Location:
    Wexford, Ireland
    2.5k I think.
     

Share This Page