Liquid fertiliser

Its very easy to see where I experimented with liquid fert on grassland over the last month, but noting scientific and my application rate might be a bit high.
 
Its very easy to see where I experimented with liquid fert on grassland over the last month, but noting scientific and my application rate might be a bit high.
Where did you get that Ozzy?
There's a lad here mad to try it your man might be close enough for him
 
@Tippcon how do you get on with liquid in this weather. Is scorch a big problem? i have granular fert sitting here for 3 weeks waiting to be spread, and it looks now from today's forecast it will sit another week
 
@Tippcon how do you get on with liquid in this weather. Is scorch a big problem? i have granular fert sitting here for 3 weeks waiting to be spread, and it looks now from today's forecast it will sit another week
Still spreading away anyway, for both grazing and 2nd cut. Scorch isn't a problem at all. The application is the exact opposite of what you'd be aiming for with conventional spraying - working at low pressure to get big droplets that run off the leaves and a target coverage of 25% or less. The fertiliser works fine in this weather as long as the other conditions required for growth are met, if your grass isn't growing because of a lack of moisture then no amount of fertiliser of any description is going to help. However if there is a drought the liquid fert will work it's way into the soil of it's own accord so when the rain does come it's available to the plant straight away, you're not waiting for it to be washed in first
 
There's an article about reseeding with liquid fertiliser in this week's Farmer's Journal, for anyone who is interested
 
Noticed that but haven't read the full thing, think it mentions liquid lime ????

There's actually two articles in it if you include that one.

One as TC (with a cameo appearance :lol:) on liquid fertiliser and another on the liquid lime.

I was interested to read that Tom reckons that P is not needed when reseeding if using that method. I'm not sure why though given the way studies on barley have shown the advantages of P and K in the seedbed.:unsure:

I can't see liquid lime passing off. The machine is expensive at around 20k and the cubicle lime needs to be ground extremely fine for it work which won't come cheap :unsure:
 
There's actually two articles in it if you include that one.

One as TC (with a cameo appearance :lol:) on liquid fertiliser and another on the liquid lime.

I was interested to read that Tom reckons that P is not needed when reseeding if using that method. I'm not sure why though given the way studies on barley have shown the advantages of P and K in the seedbed.:unsure:

I can't see liquid lime passing off. The machine is expensive at around 20k and the cubicle lime needs to be ground extremely fine for it work which won't come cheap :unsure:

You mis-read, or else you're mixing up your P's and K's. The start fertiliser used is a 10-7-0. P is important for early root development and tillering in particular, it is the K that isn't needed until later in the plant's development and can therefore be spread at a later date.
The liquid lime I know nothing about, but I'd be sceptical enough from what I read in the article. Using the weather as a selling point compared to conventional spreading doesn't make much sense when you're carrying a couple of tonnes on the tractor instead of pulling it in a spreader with LGP tyres for a start.
 
You mis-read, or else you're mixing up your P's and K's. The start fertiliser used is a 10-7-0. P is important for early root development and tillering in particular, it is the K that isn't needed until later in the plant's development and can therefore be spread at a later date.
The liquid lime I know nothing about, but I'd be sceptical enough from what I read in the article. Using the weather as a selling point compared to conventional spreading doesn't make much sense when you're carrying a couple of tonnes on the tractor instead of pulling it in a spreader with LGP tyres for a start.

You are right I did misread alright. It's still at odds though with what is generally accepted for cereals. Although to be fair in that case, some would argue it's more for the next crops benefit that it's needed.

That'd be my thoughts on the liquid lime too.
 
I have product information sheets for the main fertilisers as PDF documents if anyone is interested.
They are fairly self-explanatory anyway,
24-0-0 with 3%S
15-2-6 and 19-1-4 also contain small amounts of S
20-5-0 is a start fertiliser for maize, also contains Sulphur, Boron and Zinc
N16 is a foliar fertiliser for cereals that many growers would already be familiar with, it also contains magnesium and calcium.
I just picked that selection as examples, I can get information on others if anyone wants them. There's a 10-7-0 which is a start fertiliser for cereals and various combinations depending on soil requirements such as 15-0-5 and 20-2-0.
 
I have product information sheets for the main fertilisers as PDF documents if anyone is interested.
They are fairly self-explanatory anyway,
24-0-0 with 3%S
15-2-6 and 19-1-4 also contain small amounts of S
20-5-0 is a start fertiliser for maize, also contains Sulphur, Boron and Zinc
N16 is a foliar fertiliser for cereals that many growers would already be familiar with, it also contains magnesium and calcium.
I just picked that selection as examples, I can get information on others if anyone wants them. There's a 10-7-0 which is a start fertiliser for cereals and various combinations depending on soil requirements such as 15-0-5 and 20-2-0.

Can you get specifically blended fertilisers??
 
Can you get specifically blended fertilisers??
Yes, the fertiliser can be made to suit specific requirements although it's difficult to get high levels of K
Ask the question you really want to know... can I buy straights? mix it with the slurry and apply with the tailing shoe?
No for a couple of reasons. Number one straights aren't available in liquid form. Number 2, the purpose of the exercise is for the fertiliser to make it's way into the soil and bond with the clay particles within 24 hours. If you mix it with slurry then it will bond with that instead, so depending on your application rate the fertiliser could be left sitting on top of the ground for quite a while.
 
I saw a great idea once where a guy had built a simple wooden hopper over the in take of the slurry tanker. it was plumbed to make a venturi as you filled the tanker. He used to drop a small bag of urea in the hopper and suck it up, mix with the slurry and blow out on grass. Two jobs in one. Brain power.
 
Yes, the fertiliser can be made to suit specific requirements although it's difficult to get high levels of K

No for a couple of reasons. Number one straights aren't available in liquid form. Number 2, the purpose of the exercise is for the fertiliser to make it's way into the soil and bond with the clay particles within 24 hours. If you mix it with slurry then it will bond with that instead, so depending on your application rate the fertiliser could be left sitting on top of the ground for quite a while.
What about a man that has his own tanker using it to spread the fertiliser ??
That is presuming of course that you put the water into the mix yourself :blink:
 
What about a man that has his own tanker using it to spread the fertiliser ??
That is presuming of course that you put the water into the mix yourself :blink:
You don't spread it with a tanker, you apply it with a sprayer. You don't mix anything either, it comes pre-mixed as a complete product.
 
You don't spread it with a tanker, you apply it with a sprayer. You don't mix anything either, it comes pre-mixed as a complete product.
Well definitely a sprayer only job the if it comes pre-mixed. I was only using the tanker as an example when you had noted how if it had been in the slurry it would bind to that and not get to the soil in time.
I presume the normal sprayer nozzles are not suitable for application either.
All just points of nosing as theirs no one around these parts applying liquid fert ( I think anyways )
Could be something good for time to come though :Thumbp2:
 
I saw a great idea once where a guy had built a simple wooden hopper over the in take of the slurry tanker. it was plumbed to make a venturi as you filled the tanker. He used to drop a small bag of urea in the hopper and suck it up, mix with the slurry and blow out on grass. Two jobs in one. Brain power.

Seen something similar before guy had badly damaged paddocks he had a tank with maserator and trailing shoe. On the maserator he had a small half inch hose and used to suck up a half bag of grass seed with the slurry and put out the tank to the acre. Nice easy way of doing it cant say i saw it afterwards tho
 
@Tippcon have you any experience of liquid lime application through a sprayer,I think I saw something about this method of application last year but can't remember where.
I've soil samples just returned from some steep ground which show a lime deficiency it would be an ideal way of applying without the danger of trailed spreaders.
 
@Tippcon have you any experience of liquid lime application through a sprayer,I think I saw something about this method of application last year but can't remember where.
I've soil samples just returned from some steep ground which show a lime deficiency it would be an ideal way of applying without the danger of trailed spreaders.

No I don't know anything about it other than what I've read. It's a specialised machine though, all it does is mix ground lime with water so I wouldn't like to be putting it out with a standard sprayer. I think there's a demo machine doing the rounds in the West of Ireland, somebody else might know more about it, the Irish importers seem to be a UK based company.


http://mcgraths.ie/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/FJA.pdf
 
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