Silage 2020

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  1. Nashty

    Nashty Well-Known Member

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    When you say extra cost, are you talking a few euros per acre or significant increase? Madness some of the draws lads are at nowadays.
     
  2. Ozzy Scott

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    Maybe 20%+ per ac, I never question the extra charge the contractor has on the bill. Fair is fair.
     
  3. Nashty

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    Ah that isn't too bad in the grand scheme of things, on that sort of draw I would nearly expect it to be higher to be honest. The issue I think is if you need to draw slurry back that far, that is when outfarms become expensive. Although in your case, drawing slurry that far isn't a cost effective option I would think, would probably be cheaper buy chemical P and K.
     
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  4. Ozzy Scott

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    You just use artics, at 60 and hour you would be surprised how quick they can move gls. Or have used rigid tippers drawing dung.
     
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    Did Broughans look after you?
     
  6. Mark Lynskey

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    Sounds like these 25ton 3 axle trailers are reaching limitations, time for ejectors and walking floors. Is there anyone on market beside hispec/John kennedy machines?
     
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    That's him alright. Is it your silage or helping out.
     
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    was that out in donoughmore?
     
  11. Agri Power

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    Yes
     
  12. kverneland es 80

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    Helping out a good friend on a long draw he returns to do ours. I'd know the odonovans well tho as we used to buy a lot of straw from them before we did our own
     
  13. c4l

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    fierce lucky to have lived to tell another tale from what i heard of it
     
  14. Peter

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    Well its working out at the best part of two hours once you leave the field and get back again to the harvester. It would be a non runner for the wagon to draw in maybe 6 or 7 loads over a long day where the harvester can chop it shorter to get more into the trailers.
     
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    What happened or would you prefer not to put it on a public fourm
     
  16. Arthur

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    30 mile round trip is probably 90 minutes between filling and tipping and travel, a 20ft with a half decent harvester will need 12 trailers an hour so to keep it moving for the 90 minutes add an extra 14 plus the usual 4, €6 plus vat an acre each so add €84 plus vat to cover the haulage cost.
     
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    Very good. My brother did an ag course with him a good few years ago and they've been friends since.
     
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  19. Ozzy Scott

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    I would have taught a trailer would be more than €6 per ac

    whats harvester charge per ac, av crop
     
  20. Arthur

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    6euro an acre at 10 acres/hr, low to mid 30's an acre for harvester depending on crop.
     
  21. Claas Grass

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    16 drawing on a job near here last week, lads shouldn't be afraid to charge for it and some seemingly are, the example €84 should be charged otherwise lads will make a mockery of the contractor, they will pick up cheaper land way away from the yard in the knowledge that the contactor will foot the tab and they will pocket the saving, technically you should probably charge even more because the 4 original trailers in your price per acre have not been priced to be drawing silage that distance.
     
  22. Peter

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    Getting 12 trailers together is another big ask. It would normally work out that 8 trailers would have to do so its taking longer. It works out at nearly double the rate of a normal cut of a mile draw. The farmer thinks its expensive but they have no issue giving a lad baling silage similar money with no draw.
     
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  23. Arthur

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    I'd work it out for the number of trailers to keep the harvester running irrespective of how many I could muster, If I had only 2 extra when I needed 6 extra for example I'd be adding at least 36 euro plus vat, if there's an issue I'd be pointing out the fact that the harvester and loader were waiting and still costing.
     
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  24. Ozzy Scott

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    Hence why a contractor would only be doing long draws when they are quite. If you have no other work on, that harvester isn't costing money (except the driver) when sitting in the field with the engine knocked off, similar with the loader. Then it's down to the question of do you want to keep wheels turning or not, and what other type of business do you get through the year that are relatively profitable from that farmer and are you prepared to loose them if another contractor says yes to the job. Every contractor will view individual jobs differently
     
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