Spring Barley - General Thread

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  1. Danielk

    Danielk Well-Known Member

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    Just more out of curiosity but what kinda rates are lads putting in seed this year


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  2. nashmach

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    11 stone to the acre, TGW is 47 so it should be okay I think as I'm pretty sure TGW was over 50 last year.

    That is the plan anyway!
     
  3. Willplow

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    12 stone going in here
     
  4. Danielk

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    Was planning on sowing a shake under 11 and half stone tomorrow here


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  5. nailus

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    Sowed at 11.7 today here, propino with tgw of 52 ...there was waves of dust falling down the windscreen, what a difference a week makes!!
     
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    I was going with propino @ 65kg/ac hopefully tomorrow

    What sort of units of N are you fellas putting on ?
     
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    I was trying to put 3 bags of 10-10-20 down the spout with the seed, ended up putting about 140kg per acre so that's around 28 units of N I think.
     
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    3 bags of 10-10-20 to the acre.
     
  9. CORK

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    Paustian (the 48g) went in at 73kg/acre. 2.3 bags/acre of 10.10.20 was mixed into the seed bed. No fert in the seedbed where the P is very high.

    Planning to roll it today.

    Great weather for the job!
     
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    same as in a minute
    3 bags of 14/14/21 on top and top dressed in a few weeks
     
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    With plenty of dust rising thanks to [MENTION=4666]imokilly[/MENTION]

    [MENTION=2524]CORK[/MENTION] and [MENTION=4666]imokilly[/MENTION] many thanks for yesterdays opportunity, photos to come shortly
     
  12. Danielk

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    Sowed half at 11.3 stone. Sowing the other half at 11.5. Dryin very well.

    Spread out 2.9 bags of 13-6-20+s on most and 2.3 bags of 19-0-15 on others.


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  13. towbar

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    Cork why do you hold back the fert where the P is high? Would you not apply some N straight anyway?
     
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    I have 60 units of N in the seedbed and P and K if required . I was sowing 10.5 stone but if you experts are using more so will I .
     
  15. CORK

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    [MENTION=1844]towbar[/MENTION]

    I'm not completely sold on the idea of N in the seedbed of cereals, I feel that there is plenty of time (and less chance of leeching) to put it on once the tram lines are visible. Also more accurate with tramlines. P on the other hand is different. Its vital in the early stages of growth.

    The fields where I didn't apply P have very high levels and have yielded 3.8-3.9t/ac of spring barley on a couple of occasions.

    The land which got it in the seedbed has high P but has P lockup due to high pH (carbonates I think).

    This is the first time we have ever put fertilizer in a spring barley seedbed.

    That's my reasoning, I could be wrong of course! You know me - I have loads of theories!
     
  16. John kverneland

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    Planted propino at 11 stone seedbed was fantastic, dust was crazy!!!!
     
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    Ended up around 11.3, better too much than too little!

    Like you the dust was unreal, especially with no back window!
     
  18. Blackwater boy

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    Finished here yesterday, 11.6 stone all propino. 20 acres to roll yet, pulled the roller with the paddles on it yesterday morn (before god woke up) put on d fert and set then, had to give d eve spraying in a panic, winter barley had rhynco and needed terpal badly. Just maize and grasseeds to go in now. Seem a few tractors working today up the midlands by the motorway, being dragged shopping to Kildare village, I'd rather be picking stones!
     
  19. CORK

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    Why didn't you say? I could have gone to Kildare for you and you could have picked the stones here! Last and only time I was in Kildare village, I stayed in the car!
     
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    I will call down Tuesday morning cork, we can discuss soil structure while picking the stones, an educational exercise!!
     
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    Be careful what you wish for!!!! Don't spend too much in Kildare!!!
     
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    [MENTION=2524]CORK[/MENTION] When ur going back down call in il sell you some oats seed before the mice eat it ....
     
  23. CORK

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    Lol, I thought there were no mice in Laois?
     
  24. john415

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    Sowed spring barley after blackcurrants at 220kg/ha this morning.fairly wet and it's home saved seed not tested or.dressed

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  25. laoisfarmer

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    Most seed gone in at 10.5 to 11 stone for hire , we are going in at 12 stone but it's not dressed . Have half a field with certified mickle at 10.5 and taberna at 12 stone so we will see how it goes . All ground has got 3 bags 5/6/35 , but from now on the rest will be getting grain master ( can't think of n/p/k thinks it's 12/8/24 with loads of other stuff )
     

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