Spring beans

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  1. CORK

    CORK Well-Known Member

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    I’d never increase barley rates when sowing late. I’d stick with my original rate of 300-310 seeds/m2.

    Late sown barley is always softer in the straw so I definitely don’t want it thicker.
    I aim for 3 tillers per plant, a barley plant will produce that if planted in April or May (as long as there’s enough P and N and correct pH).
     
  2. Blackwater boy

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    Would you still sow beans tho? Looks like their will not be a sowing window this week either so it could be 10 days from now?
     
  3. CORK

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    I’d “chance “ them till the 15th.....
     
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  4. John kverneland

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    I'm not taking the risk with them anyway this year. Ordered all spring barley this evening, straw will be a valuable crop this year, heard from a couple of reliable sources 3 crop rule is being dropped. Thank God..
     
  5. Blackwater boy

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    Then again the bean straw has a value and the protein payment is tempting!!! I'll sit on the fence for another bit before deciding
     
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    Opened a bag of Lynx spring beans and the seed had Bruchid beetle holes.
    Anyone any experience/knowledge of them outside what I can find on the internet.
    Is there any risk to soil after this seed.
     
  7. CORK

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    Bruchid beetles are in the Irish countryside already (I’ve seen them in beans grown here, especially by hedges).

    Shouldn’t effect the seed - some human consumption markets like Egypt don’t like to see holes.

    The hole is actually his exit from the bean so you should just have beans.
     
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  8. Bog Man

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    Sowing Fanfare into cover crop with Horsch ST .
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    Cool Field from the Irish Cuil an Ti . In horse terms the going is firm and the track was well watered . Ground is slow to whiten .
     
  11. Bog Man

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    Finishing off the Beans with the ever reliable walk on water Kockerling.
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    A drain has gone wrong here . The beauty of the Kockerling is you can lift it and drive out whereas a Vaderstad or Horsch would need a pull .
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    There has been a derogation in 2018 as to what constitutes a seed bed .
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    It’s not about growing the perfect crop in every field every year. It’s about doing the right thing for your farm and your business to keep you heading in the right direction
     
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  15. Bog Man

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    The wet spots might not yield too well but overall I am happy with the weeks efforts . The drill man was delighted with our autumn drainage work up on the bounds ditch which he has been sowing for us for twenty five years and has always been sow able but never quite right . We put in an extra field of beans instead of spring wheat. The chances of rolling the beans seem unlikely which might force us into creative weed control and further derogations . The Beans are gone in at about 1.5 inches which should see them out of the traps fairly fast .
     
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  16. Becauka

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    Any one like to guess what the beans/peas payment will be this year?
     
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    Impossible to make any sort of accurate guess. If conditions permit later this week and into early next week lots of growers will still plant beans. If it stays wet for another 7-10 days the acreage could reduce substantially.
     
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  18. Becauka

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    Do they have to be cut to draw the subsidy?
    Getting into November ripening soon.
     
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    Sowed mine here on Friday and would consider that to be even too late. Definitely would have scrapped beans if it ran to this week. If what rain forecast comes it will be the weekend before land is fit again.
    I don't think sowing and shutting the gate would be a runner for a hundred and something odd euro, nearly cost that to establish and weed spray. Surely grass or some sort of forage crop would leave more. Plus there seems a lot of beans gone in around here in the last week maybe we might not get that high a sub when it's all added up.
     
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  20. marco

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    Sow and shut the gate would surely bring them to harves all the quicker
     
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    Also has to be a good option for anyone needing extra EFAs, sow close the gate and collect premium, EFAs and the advantage of a good break crop.
     
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    As far as I know once you put down beans on your BPS application it is assumed that pesticide applied and is therefore ineligible for EFA. I don't think there's a "pesticide-free bean" option on the list of crops on Agfood.
     
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  23. Blackwater boy

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    3 stone into the fert spreader, shallow disc, walk away, spray off next sept and back in with wheat-plenty guys thinking like that
     
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  24. Becauka

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    What's the correct seeding rate?
    How much is the seed?
     
  25. Blackwater boy

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    14-16 stone, don't know the price
     
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