Stupid idea or stroke of genius ?

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  1. Soissons

    Soissons Well-Known Member

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    I have a field that was in beans in 2018 and was sown with basic winter wheat for seed last year. Straw was removed and stubbles disced.For the past two months between 20 and 30 hoggets have been on it and the grass field next to it. There is now a nice evenly spaced cover of wheat volunteers on it which are just starting to tiller. Would it be complete madness to try for a crop of wheat from it ? Obviously BYDV would be an issue. It’s only 8 acres so won’t make or break me and was meant to be put down to grass this year anyway. No plant count done yet. Has anyone tried anything like this before? Any replies much appreciated .
     
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  2. Rebelman

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    No such thing as a stupid idea but I wouldn’t think it’d work.
     
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  3. CORK

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    I wouldn’t consider it a stupid idea.

    My two concerns would be (a) what plant population have you got and (b) what is the soil structure like - harvest traffic followed by livestock and a very wet winter might make conditions under the wheat plants fairly tough.

    Normally, I’d expect wheat volunteers to be carrying a very high level of disease (foliar and in the second wheat situation - take all) when you consider how early they were “planted”,
     
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  4. Big Vern

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    If it's "only" 8 acs and your not there'd either way, leave it as it is ,, if it looks like a shitty stick hit it with the mower and put it in some silage bales, it will fill a belly if nowt else ?? If it looks ok leave it and combine it, are you intending to sell the wheat to use it for mill mixing at home ??
     
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    Wheat is so scarce this year and trading at such a premium over barley I would chance it.
    Don't spend too much on it, cut all inputs by 1/3 and see how it goes.
     
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  6. Ugo Schtiglitz

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    Yeah. Give it a lash. But the harder you graze it down now the less disease carryover potential and the greater the hollering. If you go for it, keep a few pics up. You've already saved about 3/4 tonne of output value so doesn't need to be savage yielder.
     
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    Hollering......tillering
     
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  8. Blackwater boy

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    I’d be very concerned abou BYDV considering where your farming. 8 acres is worth chancing alright but I reckon you’ll be well hammered.
     
  9. Soissons

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    Took the first step today and put on 2 cwt per acre of 12:7:23. Sheep are off it with three weeks.
     

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  10. Ozzy Scott

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    Looks better than much wheat I have grown in the past. Can beat sheep to make a decent crops
     
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    golden hoof
     
  12. CORK

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    I’d say you’re on a winner there.
     
  13. Treemover

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    Going to watch this with great interest. Fair play Soissons
     
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