winter barley 2018

[Curious Deere]

Why do you want to roll?

Stones mainly. Last year it grew away from me and ground was too soft early on.

 

[Barrowsider]

Ye wouldn't know anything about stones up that side

I'd love to be able to agree with you on that one. While it's possible, I wouldn't be inclined to risk rolling at this stage. Get acquainted with a sprong, pick off the danger stones and don't spare the PGR.

 

[kverneland es 80]

Got 3 bags of 10 10 20 out midweek when we were doing the grazing ground

 

[diesel power]

Well right or wrong I went out today on the brothers and mine. 4 bags Ac 10:10:20 on his and 2.5 of 18:6:12 and 2 of 0:7:30 on mine. The 0:7:30 went out last year on the pressed ploughing. It's something I think I might keep doing as the crop really seems to have responded well to it. Not one bit of muck anywhere today. I've never seen land in such fantastic order for traveling on.

 

[Cork]

Did the first split of Fertiliser on the winter barley and winter OSR today. No harm to do a tray test. The effects of a breeze were evident in the trays, more than one might expect.

 

[Cork]

The winter barley appreciated the 45 units of N it received 11 days ago, after greening up a lot.

 

[towbar]

Got some in last week, not without some damage but glad it's on. Field in picture along the road still looks bare but the plants are there so I'm hopeful. The sheltered field in first photo was sowed same day.

 

[Blackwater boy]

Compound out today, 10-14 days later than normal but things did not go to plan. Absolutely no want in the crop yet, probably because no growth yet. 2k gallons of slurry in the autumn would have helped as well. That field is pixel 6 row.

 

[Cork]

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Compound out today, 10-14 days later than normal but things did not go to plan. Absolutely no want in the crop yet, probably because no growth yet. 2k gallons of slurry in the autumn would have helped as well. That field is pixel 6 row.

Looks really well!!

 

[nashmach]

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Compound out today, 10-14 days later than normal but things did not go to plan. Absolutely no want in the crop yet, probably because no growth yet. 2k gallons of slurry in the autumn would have helped as well. That field is pixel 6 row.

Nicely washed in this evening anyway....

 

[Blackwater boy]

Nicely washed in this evening anyway....

A bit more fell than I expected but it will be fine

 

[south coast agri]

Do many lads block extra tramlines (4 on each side) on the one pass to allow wider wheels for spraying and fertilizing throughout the yr ? Does it affect yield much ?

 

[Cork]

Do many lads block extra tramlines (4 on each side) on the one pass to allow wider wheels for spraying and fertilizing throughout the yr ? Does it affect yield much ?

On your 21m sprayer width, you’d be going from 162 rows of crop to 160 rows. That would be a 1.2% reduction in crop. Let’s say an average crop value per acre over the years of €645/ac (3.5tn at €150 and €120 for straw). The two less rows could cost you €7.74/acre. If your drill automatically reduced seed rate for the tramline runs then you’d save 1.2% in seed.

Of course wider tyres might save compaction and also allow you onto the land quicker which might give you some yield back.

Are my sums right? I didn’t do honours maths for the leaving!!!

 

[diesel power]

On your 21m sprayer width, you’d be going from 162 rows of crop to 160 rows. That would be a 1.2% reduction in crop. Let’s say an average crop value per acre over the years of €645/ac (3.5tn at €150 and €120 for straw). The two less rows could cost you €7.74/acre. If your drill automatically reduced seed rate for the tramline runs then you’d save 1.2% in seed.

Of course wider tyres might save compaction and also allow you onto the land quicker which might give you some yield back.

Are my sums right? I didn’t do honours maths for the leaving!!!

I kind of expected higher numbers for the cost of running with wider tyres. If it's under a tenner an acre I wouldn't see any worthwhile reason to bother with the hassle not to mention hardship of changing to narrower wheels. Not having ruts for tramlines is a bonus imo to.

 

[Barrowsider]

I kind of expected higher numbers for the cost of running with wider tyres. If it's under a tenner an acre I wouldn't see any worthwhile reason to bother with the hassle not to mention hardship of changing to narrower wheels. Not having ruts for tramlines is a bonus imo to.

It depends on the area. €10 per acre works itself into a fair lump for those with lots of hundreds of acres. Fine margins in this game.

 

[John kverneland]

I kind of expected higher numbers for the cost of running with wider tyres. If it's under a tenner an acre I wouldn't see any worthwhile reason to bother with the hassle not to mention hardship of changing to narrower wheels. Not having ruts for tramlines is a bonus imo to.

Green grains would be my issue, could drive the moisture crazy

 

[Barrowsider]

Lashed out 520 kg/ha of 10-5-25+S on the winter barley today. Crop beginning to show some signs of hunger but still fine. Fertiliser will be well washed in this time tomorrow according to the forecast.

 

[laoisfarmer]

Spread 110 acres for a customer but it is nice flat land, didn’t do my own or another customers yet as both fields are on slopes and was afraid of run off. Hopefully do it Friday ....

 

[diesel power]

Green grains would be my issue, could drive the moisture crazy

Green grains can be a bit of a concern alright but for me with handy enough acres I can afford to be a bit pickier I suppose and wait for the moistures to drop before combining so the green lads get hidden in the load. In saying that I had very little trouble last year with green grains and i did everything except the last spraying with 650's.

 

[John kverneland]

I guess the wider the tramlines the better less passes less greenery, on 15m here so I have to use rowcrops

 

[towbar]

I suppose there is also a possibility that the surrounding rows yield better with less competing plants around them offsetting some of the loss? Like John 15m here so will stick with row crops.

 

[Barrowsider]

I suppose there is also a possibility that the surrounding rows yield better with less competing plants around them offsetting some of the loss? Like John 15m here so will stick with row crops.

True but you'll get an edge effect regardless of how many coulters you shut off.

 

[nashmach]

No rowcrops here on 12m but then 12.4 are probably rowcrops to most on here

If I went to a bigger spraying tractor in the morning, I'd be going with 13.6s for tramline work in the 12m system.

 

[Louis mc]

No rowcrops here on 12m but then 12.4 are probably rowcrops to most on here

If I went to a bigger spraying tractor in the morning, I'd be going with 13.6s for tramline work in the 12m system.

Ah, 12m CTF, yes that’s all the rage in the uk now, great to you’re pioneering it here

 

[nashmach]

Ah, 12m CTF, yes that’s all the rage in the uk now, great to you’re pioneering it here

If you hold on to something or keep doing something long enough it will eventually come back into fashion....

We've even got a seed and fert drill in red :Thumbp2: