Winter Oats 2019

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  1. nashmach

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    He has a bottle for every job. Are you on commission too :laugh:
     
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    Husky oats sown 16 October. It got a shake of 0-10 -20 . It will get Sul can next week. And CCC shortly after.
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  3. Rebelman

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    Was thinking of going with Corbel and Tallius on Oats next week. Small bit of mildew but a lot of rust. Will this combination kill the rust? Have it in stock since last year hence why I was going to use it. Also can anyone tell me the difference between crown and brown rust and how to differentiate. Thanks.
     
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    Oats does not get brown rust so if you have visible rust then it’s crown rust. Corbel is ok on rust, you really need modem or opus to shift it. I would start with 1/2 a litre of corbel as soon as weather allows and leave it at that. Go in with a better curative mix then in a few weeks. Keep the Talius until later also.
     
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    Any point in putting a bit of Modem in with the Corbel? Thanks for the advice.
     
  6. Blackwater boy

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    Yes that would help, .4 of a litre per ha.
     
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    The pathology department in Teagasc Oakpark has studied samples which I sent to them and has confirmed that it is Septoria avenae.
    The lower leaves of the crop are dead and lesions are present on the new growth.

    It will be sprayed with Elatus Era next week.
     
  8. Blackwater boy

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    An awful lot of the husky oats down south has that blotch. Elatus era just seems like a mad idea in March considering it does feic all on mildew and is mediocre on rust.
     
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    Going to run into a expensive spray program especially going with elatus this early ...
     
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    We may go back to growing Barra unless there is a new variety coming along.
     
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    Not cheap but cheaper than loosing all the leaves.....

    It should have a preventative effect on mildew too?
     
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    Is that my cue.....?:wink:
     
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    Spring oat plots emerging at last, should get away from the crows as the milder weather comes.


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    Isabel winter sown oats being grown organically in Wexford. The grower also has Cellule winter wheat.

    He chose both for their disease resistance and grain quality.

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    What has he done that everyone else has not because none of the oats or wheat I’ve seen look anything like that
     
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    It’s Isabel in both pics, I haven’t seen the Cellule yet as he’s to take pics of it. He says both look well with just a little mildew.
    He planted both really thickly to suppress weeds.
     
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    Why the good colour? Is there a heap of organic manure under it or is it after ley?
     
  18. Rebelman

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    Yeah it looks amazing- don’t want to post pics of mine now!!
     
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    I honestly don’t know. Heavy ground - probably manure.
     
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    Kind of off topic but I do admire the knowledge of fungicides of ye experienced tillage people. Looking at labels, lots of products claim to do lots of things but how to know which to use, full rate, half rate, What products to mix together etc..... It’s an area I would really love to improve on but hard to find where to learn it.....or maybe it’s just years of experience!!!
     
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    Have cellule sowed also and it’s a lovely green healthy crop , have another field of graham and it’s not so impressive at all , not overly worried but thought it would be better , getting compound and k2 next week .
     
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    Cellule is a novel kind of variety, certainly not without its challenges (can get mildew and its not for sowing early).

    It’s so vigorous, even in wet conditions I’ve found.
    I agree - it’s so green & healthy! The absence of Septoria is so welcome (especially down here) and this certainly makes it look healthy.
    It won’t sprout easily and has good standing power.

    It’s strange as it gets going quickly and motors through its growth stages, then once it ears out it kind of slows down again.
    It’s yield in my trial plots absolutely shocked me last year.
     
  23. Blackwater boy

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    Ask who ever looks at the crops for you what they are recommending and why, start asking questions of them and you’ll start from there
     
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    The fact that you’re interested will mean you’ll pick up a lot through experience.

    There are only a few families or groups of fungicides e.g. SDHI’s, triazoles, strobilurins, multisites (bravo, folpet).

    Good sources of information include the Fungicides supplement that’s in the Farmers Journal each spring, all product labels are available on the PCS website as well as the manufacturers websites.

    The AHDB in the UK usually publish dose response curves which give a useful indication of how effective the different actives are on the main diseases (should be somewhere online).

    Experience is a big part of it all.
     
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    In the same boat myself , I think experience is a lot of it , I’m getting there slowly , if any sort of crop walks or even on the forum don’t be afraid to ask. Plenty of people to give advice no matter how stupid a question it is, if you don’t ask or do you will never learn .
     

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