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god tim it must be the only meeting ever held that lads came out of and never mentioned it again:D as for not exaggerating the figures sure nobody grows less than 3 ton of barley or has cows giving less than 600 ltrs,i was surprised last yr when our advisor said the national average yield is 400 ltrs i don,t know where he got the figure from but it must be correct
And the national average for spring barley is 2.7tn afaik.