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That just screamed out at me as well.DO NOT in ANY circummstance re apply Glyphosate AFTER sowing.
Ritchie
That just screamed out at me as well.DO NOT in ANY circummstance re apply Glyphosate AFTER sowing.
Ritchie
I figure that's why they can't do smaller spacings tbh. As the tines would just rip up sod. I tried a bit of prescision driving with the tines between rows and it was a mess for the few meters I managed!!No problem.
I really liked the aitchison seeder for conditions around us. But same if was 3 even 4" would be flying but only thing is if u cross stitch same thing takes little longer but cross at angle as if u do square to first run it can lift the wee squares looks messy.
Yea was only chatting to the guy that sprayed the field above at tractor run today. Told me he asked before spraying with the forefrontt was farmer reseeding he said no. Then few weeks later wanted roundup to spray off field and was told he was mad and would not grow then not happy with kill hit with roundup again. Never told us any of above then we stitched it like fools never got paid and got blame. This all from last August and 3 weeks ago sprayed off again and disced by us. And local contractor reseeded it again still not striking. And lad that sprayed holds little hope for success.
So since August 1 hit forefrontt and 3 hits roundup. I'd be scared to fall over in field incase it would heal me up
I figure that's why they can't do smaller spacings tbh. As the tines would just rip up sod. I tried a bit of prescision driving with the tines between rows and it was a mess for the few meters I managed!!
The key to not making a mess vs good tillering is to not make the 'diamonds' too tight I find. Local contractor saw my job and couldn't believe it was an Aitchison that had done it. As the only other field he'd ever seen done by one was a rough mess after they kept too tight and lifted sod all over the place!!
I'd be sending the man a bill for the disking. Spray records should show what he did with the sprays!?
Fu##ing up and blaming someone else is bad enough. Getting them to go into their pockets is another!
What brand of Glypho is cleared for spraying grass seed post sowing?I have seen very successful stitching reseeds where the Glyphosate was applied post-seeding. The theory is the moisture is retained in the decaying sward longer after seeding which aids germination of the new plants. In saying that the chemical application was 3-4 days post seeding, and there was only one application. I would think the only hope for the field in question would be to plough it in the hope of burying the chemical residues. The owner should also be reported to the relevant authorities for reckless endangerment of the environment. This and other threads have reinforced my opinion that the much-heralded pesticide application courses are a complete and utter waste of time as potentially dangerous chemicals are still being handled by individuals who have no idea how to manage them in a safe and sustainable manner. As an aside I recently observed a lady adding Roundup she had purchased in a local garden centre to a watering can in her kitchen sink. The mind boggles.
Lime should go on a long time BEFORE reseeding, at least a month, two or more preferably.
Ritchie
Theoretically all of them?What brand of Glypho is cleared for spraying grass seed post sowing?
Theoretically all of them?
Soil cancells its effect. And the seed is below the soil and not germinated (obviously too late once germinated!)
Local lad who has done a serious amount of dd does all the spraying after drilling.
I've been tempted but my luck would be that the weather would turn or the contractor wouldn't turn up!
Really? Everyone around me puts lime out sometime between spraying and seeding. As in days before seeding.
granlime is only the same as the fines in ground limestone. A couple of tonnes of ground limestone would put on more quick-fix than a couple of bags of granlime plus you have the next few years covered.... he said he was no longer doing it unless their was lime out, proper lime not granlime which surprised me as I thought the quick release would be better for a reseed than the slow release of ground limestone.
Its All Calcium Carbonate, its only the Quantity that vairies.granlime is only the same as the fines in ground limestone. A couple of tonnes of ground limestone would put on more quick-fix than a couple of bags of granlime plus you have the next few years covered.
It won't work like that I've seen it with my own eyes for myself at best ground limestone will increase pH by one pointIts All Calcium Carbonate, its only the Quantity that vairies.
Two tonnes acre of ground limestone is approximatly the same as 150 kg acre granular lime, according to the salesmen but it needs that ANNUALY.
It will hardly make a dent in your ph indices.
Your two tonnes of ground limestone will give you about 1500 kg of fines, just a slight difference there.
It was the byproduct of grinding limestone that had no market, then someone came up with the bright idea of adding a binder too it and marketing it as something farmers could spread themselves at a Greatly Inflated price.
It was a WASTE product.
Ritchie
Hi all looking for advice and suggestions have new Erth Agriseeder.
Job 1
On 9th August last did first field 6 acres at same time across hedge 6 acres ploughed and reseeded. Long story short was serious success and 2 grazing before close. And matched if not surpassed the ploughing. Was more than happy.
Job 2
On 3rd September last did 12 acres. Much drier field than job 1 and we were in prob driest spell I've seen. Seed came on headlands where bit damper but struck in different times some 14 days some took up to 6 weeks to strike. There was a ground frost 2 weeks after stitching but was minimal.
Pic is off reeseding on 11th October so exactly 38 days after seeding.seedlings struck about 7 days. Why? Suggestions?
Below is the facts and what I've learned since.
1. Pre mowing farmer sprayed off sward with ForeFrontT.
2. After mowing sprayed off with roundup
3. Farmer not happy with kill so sprayed again with roundup.
4. Roughly 14 days after direct drilled then
Fertaliser spread straight after and lime was put out. So all by book.
5. One of driest September's on file.
6. 11th October. My observations nothing growing on field 38 days later headlands was a bit of a strike but still poor.
7. Fertaliser from 04/05 September 34 days still visible on ground.
Recently disced the field and was reseeded as was disaster so sorted now.
Doing 90 acres myself this year so want to get it right. Of course the machine is 100% to blame for seed not coming? Or was it ?
Did I do something wrong? Was it the spray residue( have been told should been ploughed not drilled after ForeFrontT) I dont know as never herd of forefront till now as dont do spraying. Then sprayed with roundup twice.
Was it just conditions drought/ ground frost/ low temp/ time of year.
Was it sowed to deep to fast. Is machine the fault?
One of pictures is where machine was pulled up field through what was already done this struck why ?
Really appreciate any feedback positive or negative. Want to get it right going forward as as much work doing right as wrong .
One change made got a tine harrow on back of machine to disturb surface incase spray residue.
All pics below 38 days after drilling.
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Well I didnt do this time so not my monkey. My machine blamed last year and this time disced and reseeded and that results.Very weedy I doubt the farmer is happy be expecting better results after 8 weeks. R u going to spray the weeds now? Sheep?
Well I didnt do this time so not my monkey. My machine blamed last year and this time disced and reseeded and that results.
My Penny's worth is that sprayed forefrontt cut 4 weeks later then roundup then 2nd application round up then stitched then drought then sprayed for chickweed. Left for winter. Sprayed with roundup then disced 3 times and seeded. And 9 weeks on that's result. I think maybe he has overdid it on the spray maybe a tad. Not a thing to do with my machine or the man that did this year obviously it's something else. Bloody ground is near radioactive there is that much chemicals in it. And what's answer now spray for weeds or spray off ? The grass on that field would have more hope on the moon.
Ah yes the old was it the machine was the problem one.Well I didnt do this time so not my monkey. My machine blamed last year and this time disced and reseeded and that results.
My Penny's worth is that sprayed forefrontt cut 4 weeks later then roundup then 2nd application round up then stitched then drought then sprayed for chickweed. Left for winter. Sprayed with roundup then disced 3 times and seeded. And 9 weeks on that's result. I think maybe he has overdid it on the spray maybe a tad. Not a thing to do with my machine or the man that did this year obviously it's something else. Bloody ground is near radioactive there is that much chemicals in it. And what's answer now spray for weeds or spray off ? The grass on that field would have more hope on the moon.
The answer.Well I didnt do this time so not my monkey. My machine blamed last year and this time disced and reseeded and that results.
My Penny's worth is that sprayed forefrontt cut 4 weeks later then roundup then 2nd application round up then stitched then drought then sprayed for chickweed. Left for winter. Sprayed with roundup then disced 3 times and seeded. And 9 weeks on that's result. I think maybe he has overdid it on the spray maybe a tad. Not a thing to do with my machine or the man that did this year obviously it's something else. Bloody ground is near radioactive there is that much chemicals in it. And what's answer now spray for weeds or spray off ? The grass on that field would have more hope on the moon.