Blackwater boy
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It’s all part of the €15, the spec is very straightforward and not hard to achieveI taught they were talking about paying an environmental payment? €15 a ton would be the payment just for the higher spec over feed
It’s all part of the €15, the spec is very straightforward and not hard to achieveI taught they were talking about paying an environmental payment? €15 a ton would be the payment just for the higher spec over feed
It’s all part of the €15, the spec is very straightforward and not hard to achieve
There was no premium. Not fully sure what the specs are but 63KPH dry, free from wild oats, sound and sweet smelling etc, no varietal, protein or skinning restrictions etcBut it would be a higher spec than feed barley anyway. What used the usual premium be over feed?
The cynicism & defeatism in this thread is heart warming....:woot:
At least there are groups like TII, Tillage stakeholders, IGG, IFA making an effort to create change. Many of these people are doing this work on a completely voluntary basis.
I was in Paris with my little girl at a showjumping thing and I got talking to a lady that was part of putting the deal with Pernod together at the time.Jameson french whiskey produced by French Distillers Limited (FDL) in Middleton, use a small % of Irish distilling barley to produce their French whiskey. Dont know how they get away with it. :scratchhead:
Quinn’s are trying soya?I'm sorry for the cynicism on my part Cork but we have been there done that already as highlighted by several posts above, as tillage farmers we have to jump through several hoops but when it comes to the next stage there seems to be so little questions and much more bending of the rules with loose interpretations that it is quite frankly embarrassing.
I don't doubt for a minute all the good work that those you mention do but It's being undermined by others. Unfortunately our coops have a lot to answer for in my view with many private companies leading the way,.look at Flahavans on the oats side and Quinn's with beans and soya for example.
Still waiting for last years crop to mature, it was harvest alright. Saw some wholecroping in Wicklow last year. Looked like cabbage when cutting.Quinn’s are trying soya?
How’s that going?
Is soya grown around you in France J?Quinn’s are trying soya?
How’s that going?
Yes.Is soya grown around you in France J?
I heard that they’re having some limited success with it in SE England.Still waiting for last years crop to mature, it was harvest alright. Saw some wholecroping in Wicklow last year. Looked like cabbage when cutting.
Still waiting for last years crop to mature, it was harvest alright. Saw some wholecroping in Wicklow last year. Looked like cabbage when cutting.
Take in sludge, have all your fertiliser and ploughing for free, that’s one method, consequences include falling out with all your neighbours over the smellHello all ,ive just joined this forum and having read this thread from the start it seems to me that four years later we are really no further on regarding the acre / income for our labour .
Cork is of course correct we dont spend many hours working per acre but with current feed barley prices and some very old fashioned yields this year we are on a hiding to nothing .
Even with a lot of straw getting wetter by the day still on the ground waiting for a dry day or week at this stage its hard to get a 20 euro note for good dry barley straw .
Grain growing is turning into an expensive hobby and with american bumper maize yields becoming a regular occourence feed barley is always going to be under pressure. Anyone got any ideas on how we reduce our spend on crop inputs without losing too much yield ?? Ah well theres always next year .
Take in sludge, have all your fertiliser and ploughing for free, that’s one method, consequences include falling out with all your neighbours over the smell
Hello all ,ive just joined this forum and having read this thread from the start it seems to me that four years later we are really no further on regarding the acre / income for our labour .
Cork is of course correct we dont spend many hours working per acre but with current feed barley prices and some very old fashioned yields this year we are on a hiding to nothing .
Even with a lot of straw getting wetter by the day still on the ground waiting for a dry day or week at this stage its hard to get a 20 euro note for good dry barley straw .
Grain growing is turning into an expensive hobby and with american bumper maize yields becoming a regular occourence feed barley is always going to be under pressure. Anyone got any ideas on how we reduce our spend on crop inputs without losing too much yield ?? Ah well theres always next year .
Maybe they've got wind of the €310 an acre lads are willing to pay around me. Actually impossible to expand as a young farmer here. 1t of grain should pay the rent on land, when you have to give 2t to rent it you will either be working on a very fine margin or a loss, my opinion at least.was asked €250ac for land that I've had for last 20yrs by auctioneer for tillage what da hell crazy
I said no fxxking way
Would i better off to set entitlements and forget about it opions please
Is that a big increase on what you were giving the last few years? I would imagine most good tillage land was making 200 euro or thereabouts last few years anyways.was asked €250ac for land that I've had for last 20yrs by auctioneer for tillage what da hell crazy
I said no fxxking way
Would i better off to set entitlements and forget about it opions please
€180ac but some heavy land and some rocky land on thatIs that a big increase on what you were giving the last few years? I would imagine most good tillage land was making 200 euro or thereabouts last few years anyways.
That's almost a 40% increase he is looking for so, not simple.€180ac but some heavy land and some rocky land on that
Set your entitlements otherwise your spending money to work instead of making it. Land rental is nuts.was asked €250ac for land that I've had for last 20yrs by auctioneer for tillage what da hell crazy
I said no fxxking way
Would i better off to set entitlements and forget about it opions please
+ that BIG cheque that comes from Brussels every year without fail so far.........Taking spring barley as an example
€230 for inputs approximately
€150 for machinery approximately
€200 for land as mentioned above
Total €580
3 ton of malt at €170= €510
Straw excluding bailing €60/ac
Total €570.
Am I the only one that cant understand current rental prices or am I missing something?