I admire your conviction
@muckymanor. I would say this though. In general, EU subsidies have been super for farmers in this country. They did exactly what they said on the tin, they compensated farmers for producing cheap food to feed a growing population post wars. The cheap food thing went a little too far probably, allied to the fact that there were huge efficiencies in farming and food production since the subsidies were introduced. The subsidies now have a new focus, environmental protection, which whether we like it or not, is here to stay and is being driven by big business, politics, etc. The Irish farmer or any other European farmer is disposable at this stage, where he or she wasn't when the subsidies were introduced as food was scarce then. Subsidies in this part of the world are on the wain with a good while now, and that will continue. I would say this time around that farmers will have a choice. They can either stay farming productively and take a big hit on subsidies or they can do what they are told in these eco schemes and just farm on the side as they say. Either way, they won't be making farmers rich, of that you can be sure because as I said above, the farmer is now disposable. The stock of the farmer has fallen and that is not going to change for the time being anyways.