Clearfell

[Masseyrk662]

The father is getting his first bit of forestry knocked this week, road going down today.

 

[Canyanero]

Did ye go for the grant on it? We’ve some nearly ready for the chop

 

[muckymanor]

The father is getting his first bit of forestry knocked this week, road going down today.

A floating road! The terram should give it a lot of extra strength on the bog. Will the timber lorries be crossing it or will it just be for the forwarder to bring the wood to the roadside? Timber lorries will test it if they are going across it.

 

[Masseyrk662]

No grant on this roadway, paying it himself. It’s pure bog them trees are in you wouldn’t get a grant to plant it now it’s that bad, he used to graze cattle on it years ago and suffered with red water and fluke. The lorries are going to back down off main road onto that road and load there, I’ll keep ye updated

 

[scoffcruddle]

A floating road! The terram should give it a lot of extra strength on the bog. Will the timber lorries be crossing it or will it just be for the forwarder to bring the wood to the roadside? Timber lorries will test it if they are going across it.

I’m on with a similar job today and I’m putting terram down to do the same,hoping it’ll stop mud squelching up into the stone more than anything.

 

[JohnBoy]

Will it be long enough to make a loop? Loops are much more fun than one ways

 

[muckymanor]

I’m on with a similar job today and I’m putting terram down to do the same,hoping it’ll stop mud squelching up into the stone more than anything.

It will. Years ago we worked digging out a very large boat mooring area along a canal and a river. We made a significant roadway on very marshy ground by laying terram, drawing in marl clay with dumpers and pushing it across the terram with a dozer. It was along a railway line and a few years after that they were replacing the railway bridge that crossed the river. They topped our roadway up with stone and were able to use it to get cranes and heavy bridge panels onto the site. The terram will stop the squelch from swallowing up the dry material on top.

 

[Arthur]

The father is getting his first bit of forestry knocked this week, road going down today.

How long was he waiting for a felling licence ?

 

[Masseyrk662]

How long was he waiting for a felling licence ?

8 months for it, wasn’t bad at all at that apparently there are huge delays

 

[Masseyrk662]

Will it be long enough to make a loop? Loops are much more fun than one ways

Only going to be a one way system I’m afraid, there’s 35 acres behind that which was planted in 2013, whenever that’s fit we will be able to loop it

 

[Ozzy Scott]

what sort of money will the clearfell be worth per ac? are you getting a contractor to harvest it privately

 

[Arthur]

8 months for it, wasn’t bad at all at that apparently there are huge delays

Not bad at all, waiting 7 months here and I have a share of ash that the dieback is showing in, Hurley butts turning to firewood the longer it goes on, have applied for the re-establishment scheme and not even an acknowledgment back.

 

[jay gatsby]

what sort of money will the clearfell be worth per ac? are you getting a contractor to harvest it privately

The guards wouldn't ask him that 🤣

 

[Masseyrk662]

what sort of money will the clearfell be worth per ac? are you getting a contractor to harvest it privately

That ground as I said is pure bog, forestry is like any crop the better the land the better it grows. That is Norway spruce also which is worth much less than Sitka which is commonly grown but Norway grows in worse conditions. After all costs from roadway, contractor, replanting Etc there will be approx 4500 an acre out of it

 

[muckymanor]

That ground as I said is pure bog, forestry is like any crop the better the land the better it grows. That is Norway spruce also which is worth much less than Sitka which is commonly grown but Norway grows in worse conditions. After all costs from roadway, contractor, replanting Etc there will be approx 4500 an acre out of it

Thats not a bad return. I'm guessing that it was planted around 30 years ago and land like that was probably only worth in the region of €1000 to €1500 or whatever that is in punts. I know that we bought land in 1993 for £1000 per acre. It was relatively good upland for this part of the country.

 

[Masseyrk662]

Thats not a bad return. I'm guessing that it was planted around 30 years ago and land like that was probably only worth in the region of €1000 to €1500 or whatever that is in punts. I know that we bought land in 1993 for £1000 per acre. It was relatively good upland for this part of the country.

It’s 25 years in never thinned because there was no point between the land and the variety it wouldn’t pay apparently. The land it’s in is about a mile from the home farm and there is a stone road going the whole way to it. I can’t remember it being farmed at all but apparently the last straw was when he went in to top it and got stuck 20 yards from the gate. The grandmother was very against it at the time as she said his father always farmed it but in-fairness nothing like that ever affected the father it either makes money or it’s not worth keeping is his attitude.

 

[Masseyrk662]

Roadway finished, harvester supposed to come Wednesday

 

[Masseyrk662]

The plan is to forward all timber to the lighter stone and let the lorries reverse in and load from here. I don’t know if there will be enough room here, hopefully there will be the lorries only have to draw about 3 miles to the mill

 

[eddie86]

Are you getting the Cuddy's down to harvest it?
They are some men for making bank 😄

 

[ptfarmer]

The plan is to forward all timber to the lighter stone and let the lorries reverse in and load from here. I don’t know if there will be enough room here, hopefully there will be the lorries only have to draw about 3 miles to the mill

You would wonder if the quality of timber coming out of such areas even covers the cost of its harvesting

 

[Masseyrk662]

You would wonder if the quality of timber coming out of such areas even covers the cost of its harvesting

At the price timber is at the moment a few aul fur bushes would nearly be worth cutting

 

[mixed fleet]

You would wonder if the quality of timber coming out of such areas even covers the cost of its harvesting

You'd have to question the whole economics of the job alright.
When you consider what fuel is burnt harvesting, gathering up and then transporting.
The whole forestry job hinges on grants.
No grants, no forestry.

 

[13spanner]

Tis an odd business alright. Timber from up the country is brought down here. Timber down here goes up the country.

 

[Masseyrk662]

I remember a few years ago dad was buying a demo tractor it was 90k at the time. I had no real say then but the salesman was sort of pushing a fendt and gave one on demo for a few days and I loved it, I thought it was the only way to go but it was 160 000 I think at the time or something along them lines. He always reminds me now when I’m looking to buy something that he bought the tractor that time and 18 acres of ground for forestry for the same price as the fendt. The forestry leaves in tax free grant money every year which is a big help and some day will be harvested which is a bigger help. (That isn’t a dig at fendt owners or anything I think they are class)

 

[13spanner]

Got a spin in one of these recently.
Some technology.