Ash dieback

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many here affected by the ash dieback? Government don’t ,t seem to know how to deal with it , any signs of the scheme reopening?
 
Depends on what area your in. None of the Ash here have it and hopefully it stays that way as most of the Ash trees here are a couple of centuries old. I have seen new or newish Ash plantations wiped out with it.
 
Around me is full of it, we’ve a field of ash full of it and there’s no scheme open to deal with it. Bigger trees do seem to be escaping it so far
 
Around me is full of it, we’ve a field of ash full of it and there’s no scheme open to deal with it. Bigger trees do seem to be escaping it so far


I have a couple of acres of Ash but have escaped so far - something on the BBC a few weeks ago saying its worse in drier and warmer parts of the UK, assume something simillar over here.
 
Seemingly the reconstitution grant is near impossible to get, it only accounts for dead trees.
The whole scheme is a farce designed to get department off the hook, if you have over 25 year plantation or over a certain height or a certain diameter at breast height you will be excluded plus the fact that felling licences are years behind, anything with dieback should be a simple straightforward clearfell without a load of red tape. By the time the felling licence comes anything with hurley butt value will be destroyed by dieback.
 
When ash die back was discovered here but i am open to correction that the first case of it in ireland was up my neck out beside drumcoura city where cowboys n heros takes place.
Dept cut the planting and never said anything to any landowner in a 3 mile radius just went in with a saw on a digger and cut every native ash tree and burned them and sprayed the stumps.it was a woeful looking mess and they had no regard for farmers land either
 
The whole scheme is a farce designed to get department off the hook, if you have over 25 year plantation or over a certain height or a certain diameter at breast height you will be excluded plus the fact that felling licences are years behind, anything with dieback should be a simple straightforward clearfell without a load of red tape. By the time the felling licence comes anything with hurley butt value will be destroyed by dieback.
What sort of money does a hurley quality tree make? And is it just a standard trunk or does it need the roots too?
 
What sort of money does a hurley quality tree make? And is it just a standard trunk or does it need the roots too?
It's just the root plus the bottom of the trunk up to breast height.
Pure torture taking them out, cut each root around the tree and then lift them out, ideally you don't want to break any timber .
Lots of spade work and sharpening chainsaws
 
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What sort of money does a hurley quality tree make? And is it just a standard trunk or does it need the roots too?
We got 10 euro per board several years ago. We had to saw the trees down and then have them sawn into boards. Some boards make 1 hurl and some boards make 5 to 8 hurls depending on the size of the tree trunk. Specialist board sawer had to be used as referred by the hurl maker.
 
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When ash die back was discovered here but i am open to correction that the first case of it in ireland was up my neck out beside drumcoura city where cowboys n heros takes place.
Dept cut the planting and never said anything to any landowner in a 3 mile radius just went in with a saw on a digger and cut every native ash tree and burned them and sprayed the stumps.it was a woeful looking mess and they had no regard for farmers land either
Work colleague of mine lives next door to that. Reckons that they left the sawn infected ash on site for years afterwards and it infected loads of trees even after it was cut.

Really noticeable here since the storm this week. Several ash trees knocked and you can see that they are rotten at the roots. I suspect 3/4 of the trees on our land are infected as they are very lacking in leaves this year. It's going to be some wipe out. We have thousands of ash trees in hedges on the farm.
 
Have a few big ash trees to knock.does it pay after to saw into planks for Hurley’s. Or ringing them and splitting up for firewood ?
 
Have a few big ash trees to knock.does it pay after to saw into planks for Hurley’s. Or ringing them and splitting up for firewood ?
Mature ash trees are too big for Hurley butts, 25 years or younger depending on growing conditions and competing trees.
 
Hi all, I am looking for ash suitable for Hurley making. The ash must be growing in a woodland or a grove, ditch ash is not suitable.

Straight growing ash, with a minimum of three prominent curved roots per stem. Ash ranging from 25-50 cm in DBH. The ash must be free from defects within the bottom 1.3 meter section for e.g(no knots, lumps or brown heart). Contact me if you have possibilities. Thank you.
 

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Hi all, I am looking for ash suitable for Hurley making. The ash must be growing in a woodland or a grove, ditch ash is not suitable.

Straight growing ash, with a minimum of three prominent curved roots per stem. Ash ranging from 25-50 cm in DBH. The ash must be free from defects within the bottom 1.3 meter section for e.g(no knots, lumps or brown heart). Contact me if you have possibilities. Thank you.
What part of the country are you in ?
 
Dieback has become widespread here now. This summer has been hard on ash trees on our land. Anything that wasn't already dead didn't leaf properly and now that the leaves are falling, instead of breaking off at the leaf stem, the wind is breaking of the ends of the tiny branches.

The next storm will be telling. I wonder when will the authorities wake up to it. Its going to happen - trees will topple over along roads and kill people.
 
They will just say it's the landowners responsibility to ensure there is no dangerous trees along the road etc etc
 
Dieback has become widespread here now. This summer has been hard on ash trees on our land. Anything that wasn't already dead didn't leaf properly and now that the leaves are falling, instead of breaking off at the leaf stem, the wind is breaking of the ends of the tiny branches.

The next storm will be telling. I wonder when will the authorities wake up to it. Its going to happen - trees will topple over along roads and kill people.
I was up your neck of the woods last week and I noticed lines of trees at the side of the road and I would not like to be under them on a windy night.
 
Dieback has become widespread here now. This summer has been hard on ash trees on our land. Anything that wasn't already dead didn't leaf properly and now that the leaves are falling, instead of breaking off at the leaf stem, the wind is breaking of the ends of the tiny branches.

The next storm will be telling. I wonder when will the authorities wake up to it. Its going to happen - trees will topple over along roads and kill people.

Depends on what area your in. None of the Ash here have it and hopefully it stays that way as most of the Ash trees here are a couple of centuries old. I have seen new or newish Ash plantations wiped out with it.


I don't have an Ash plantation , but I have hundreds of Ash trees in hedgerows. A sad sight this year . A few totally dead , vast majority would have had between 30 to 50 % leaf cover , and very few with full leaf cover . Youd see some with twigs growing up out of mature branches , like a sort of 2nd growth .

I ve often tried to get out of sowing potatoes here by saying that it was gone too late in the year . My father has always replied " You are still time enough sowing spuds , while you can see out through an Ash tree ". This year , you could see out through them all year .

There will be some change in the landscape around here in a couple of years .
 
Unfortunately was looking through a small block(could be half an acre) of ash last week and I reckon the lot will have to see the chain saw. They are planted too close anyway IMO(probably about 6ft square grid kind of) but it doesn’t look like that will matter now.

Is there any sign of it affecting any other trees or is it purely just ash it hits, these would be in a bit mixed with some other varieties. And also is it all types(mountain etc) are susceptible?
 
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