marco
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The only people they are fooling is themselves
At the mart...
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Ozzy Scott
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You would want to be up very early to catch those lads out
Thankfully it's all but gone from the pedigree LM game. Weighing at birth and now the adaption of genomics has drawn a line under most of the shenanigans
Plenty have been paid well by doing it, maybe not for long but they definitely made something from doing it.
jay gatsby
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I'm genuinely surprised by that, I wouldn't be at many show and sales but even around an ordinary sale I'd have thought it was only an odd messer acting the bollox or some old person not up with their paperwork that would be at it.
Arthur
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As a cattle man once remarked to me when an animal of questionable age entered the ring.. " I wonder what age he was when he was born"
I heard it said once of cattle with similar questions around their birth cert that perhaps they had visited Tir Na nOg
muckymanor
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To be fair, the older weanling bull all weighed properly but when they got to the last quarter, some of the may and June born bulls weighed a respectable 300 to 320kg but almost half of the last quarter in the class weighed weights that raised eyebrows. There was one June born LM bull that weighed 500kg. There was always the odd one at these kind of sales - i just have never seen so many.
They have only started selling the heifers. There's a lot of them and its oldest first so it will be interesting to see if the same thing happens.
They have only started selling the heifers. There's a lot of them and its oldest first so it will be interesting to see if the same thing happens.
Green Grass
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That photo shot above shoud not be on a public forum no matter what date they were born
Paw
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Why? It's a public auction for anyone to view.
mixed fleet
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Is that Carrick, how was the trade.
muckymanor
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Very strong trade for everything
muckymanor
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Why not? Its live streamed. They have stills on their Facebook page. There's nobody identified in the picture.
Green Grass
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You are making it easy if depf. of ag. get any notion to follow up .It happened locally where a farmer used register calves late they came in and skipped over 100 calves for no other good reason
muckymanor
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Surely the dep of ag officials at the sale will pick up on it rather than scanning social media looking for someone to pick on
Ozzy Scott
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How did they manage to prove it, you can suspect it, but that's not good enough in legal terms..
I suspect there was much more to the story
Green Grass
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the dept. would not register the calves without dna proof and the farmer was only guessing the mothers at this stage
gone
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I wonder was this around the same time as a big breeder in the UK was caught messing with all his calves ages, parentage etc?
mixed fleet
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I see a new record set for a limousin calf €18,000
I'd be more worried about the social distancing, than the ages on the board.
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jay gatsby
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Laois man sells Limousin heifer for record €18,000 at prestigious Carrick-on-Shannon sale - Laois Today
Sean Ramsbottom from Timahoe sold a Limousin heifer for a record €18,000 at the Carrick-on-Shannon sale in Leitrim on Monday
www.laoistoday.ie
18k for a non pedigree heifer, how the hell does that work?
Gone to the UK I believe, plenty muppets still around, you just need to know where to find them obviously!Laois man sells Limousin heifer for record €18,000 at prestigious Carrick-on-Shannon sale - Laois Today
Sean Ramsbottom from Timahoe sold a Limousin heifer for a record €18,000 at the Carrick-on-Shannon sale in Leitrim on Monday
18k for a non pedigree heifer, how the hell does that work?
muckymanor
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No man spends money like that without a lot of planning and thought. I have no doubt that she will be flushed to produce multiples of embryos.Laois man sells Limousin heifer for record €18,000 at prestigious Carrick-on-Shannon sale - Laois Today
Sean Ramsbottom from Timahoe sold a Limousin heifer for a record €18,000 at the Carrick-on-Shannon sale in Leitrim on Monday
18k for a non pedigree heifer, how the hell does that work?
jay gatsby
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Oh I've no doubt it wasn't done on a whim but I didn't realise there was a market for commercial stock genetics to that level
The odd one in the UK will make that sort of money
muckymanor
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There is quite a substantial market for commercial stock genetics in both Ireland and the UK. Id say that theres more commercial "show breeders" now than pedigree breeders. A doner cow can produce between 30 and 60 viable embryos in her lifetime so in the right hands, a heifer of this one's breeding could be quite valuable. She was well advertised before the sale and the buyer would have had her well checked out.