Plenty have been paid well by doing it, maybe not for long but they definitely made something from doing it.The only people they are fooling is themselves
Plenty have been paid well by doing it, maybe not for long but they definitely made something from doing it.The only people they are fooling is themselves
I'm genuinely surprised by that, I wouldn't be at many show and sales but even around an ordinary sale I'd have thought it was only an odd messer acting the bollox or some old person not up with their paperwork that would be at it.A strong diet of long rushes combined with specially adapted calendars and you too can have your bull weanlings to 430kg at 5 months. In fact the animal before this was recorded as being born on June 1st 2021 and weighed 450kg.
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Cattle showing is a great way of keeping your children interested in farming but it gets a bit frustrating when you face a long line of animals that did 3kg a day since birth. We have been showing animals since I was a small child and the emphasis was never on winning.
As a cattle man once remarked to me when an animal of questionable age entered the ring.. " I wonder what age he was when he was born"I'm genuinely surprised by that, I wouldn't be at many show and sales but even around an ordinary sale I'd have thought it was only an odd messer acting the bollox or some old person not up with their paperwork that would be at it.
I heard it said once of cattle with similar questions around their birth cert that perhaps they had visited Tir Na nOgAs a cattle man once remarked to me when an animal of questionable age entered the ring.. " I wonder what age he was when he was born"
Why? It's a public auction for anyone to view.That photo shot above shoud not be on a public forum no matter what date they were born
Is that Carrick, how was the trade.A strong diet of long rushes combined with specially adapted calendars and you too can have your bull weanlings to 430kg at 5 months. In fact the animal before this was recorded as being born on June 1st 2021 and weighed 450kg.
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Cattle showing is a great way of keeping your children interested in farming but it gets a bit frustrating when you face a long line of animals that did 3kg a day since birth. We have been showing animals since I was a small child and the emphasis was never on winning.
Very strong trade for everythingIs that Carrick, how was the trade.
Why not? Its live streamed. They have stills on their Facebook page. There's nobody identified in the picture.That photo shot above shoud not be on a public forum no matter what date they were born
How did they manage to prove it, you can suspect it, but that's not good enough in legal terms..You are making it easy if depf. of ag. get any notion to follow up .It happened locally where a farmer used register calves late they came in and skipped over 100 calves for no other good reason
I wonder was this around the same time as a big breeder in the UK was caught messing with all his calves ages, parentage etc?How did they manage to prove it, you can suspect it, but that's not good enough in legal terms..
I suspect there was much more to the story
I see a new record set for a limousin calf €18,000Very strong trade for everything
I see a new record set for a limousin calf €18,000
I'd be more worried about the social distancing, than the ages on the board.
Gone to the UK I believe, plenty muppets still around, you just need to know where to find them obviously!Laois man sells Limousin heifer for record €18,000 at prestigious Carrick-on-Shannon sale - Laois Today
Sean Ramsbottom from Timahoe sold a Limousin heifer for a record €18,000 at the Carrick-on-Shannon sale in Leitrim on Mondaywww.laoistoday.ie
18k for a non pedigree heifer, how the hell does that work?
No man spends money like that without a lot of planning and thought. I have no doubt that she will be flushed to produce multiples of embryos.Laois man sells Limousin heifer for record €18,000 at prestigious Carrick-on-Shannon sale - Laois Today
Sean Ramsbottom from Timahoe sold a Limousin heifer for a record €18,000 at the Carrick-on-Shannon sale in Leitrim on Mondaywww.laoistoday.ie
18k for a non pedigree heifer, how the hell does that work?
Oh I've no doubt it wasn't done on a whim but I didn't realise there was a market for commercial stock genetics to that levelNo man spends money like that without a lot of planning and thought. I have no doubt that she will be flushed to produce multiples of embryos.
The odd one in the UK will make that sort of moneyOh I've no doubt it wasn't done on a whim but I didn't realise there was a market for commercial stock genetics to that level
There is quite a substantial market for commercial stock genetics in both Ireland and the UK. Id say that theres more commercial "show breeders" now than pedigree breeders. A doner cow can produce between 30 and 60 viable embryos in her lifetime so in the right hands, a heifer of this one's breeding could be quite valuable. She was well advertised before the sale and the buyer would have had her well checked out.Oh I've no doubt it wasn't done on a whim but I didn't realise there was a market for commercial stock genetics to that level
Thanks, I didn't realise that. Is there a lotnof emphasis on icbf figures then or do lads just follow back the bloodlines of both breedsThere is quite a substantial market for commercial stock genetics in both Ireland and the UK. Id say that theres more commercial "show breeders" now than pedigree breeders. A doner cow can produce between 30 and 60 viable embryos in her lifetime so in the right hands, a heifer of this one's breeding could be quite valuable. She was well advertised before the sale and the buyer would have had her well checked out.
Its a mix and match really depending on the breed. Some of the more muscle types wouldn't have great maternal scores. But on the other side, they'd have high terminal scores.Thanks, I didn't realise that. Is there a lotnof emphasis on icbf figures then or do lads just follow back the bloodlines of both breeds
There are many legacy issues with the star system, mostly around reliability and the lack of data on non Irish bulls. Not an issue for your average farmer but it's not a perfect system at allIts a mix and match really depending on the breed. Some of the more muscle types wouldn't have great maternal scores. But on the other side, they'd have high terminal scores.
The big sellers yesterday were the limousins. They were all high scoring for maternal.
Some lads wouldn't be big fans of the star system. Its more down to them not understanding it than there being a serious flaw with the system. I see that the proposed new bdgp scheme for the new cap will have more of a focus on terminal indexes with a view to finishing cattle at a younger age. I can only say that the old bdgp scheme was good to us. We didn't try to cut corners by bringing in dairy bred animals but rather tried to breed all round better animals from the cows that we had. It brought big changes to the type of cows we have but also brought very positive changes to the quality of the animals going out the gate.