conversion to electric

And they were right as petrol is cleaner than diesel but this electric car buzz feels like 2008 when diesels were cleaner than petrol because of their lower co2, sorry don’t trust politicians and what they are trying to push and sell us. And the car companies were caught telling fibs about emissions, will it be the same about range. But still petrol Or diesel in the states they don’t worry about emissions

sorry man I think 35-40k is a serious amount of money to spend on a car, we’ve lost the plot with car prices and how we think about there value thanks to cheap credit and low interest rates. Will consider a second hand EV but they’re hanging on price wise in the mid teens, was looking at I3 or an ioniq but they’re still tasty enough price wise and battery longevity is still not proven in them
I meant it's not that much on a brand new car
 
But back on topic I think your dead right about converting older cars to electric, if this is truly a green agenda that’s where the push would be 👌👍
Very little information out there, fella on CB show only trains people to convert so no one doing this on industrial scale to any degree
 
It's great to be pushing electric cars and all that but where's the transmission capacity for increasing electrical demands for the majority of road transport going to come from?

We've been warned in the last few months about the increased likelihood of power cuts due to ever increasing demands and now we're encouraging even more demand on a strained system.

To me, it doesn't add up at all.
True but that's not the fault of the EV movement as it's specific to Ireland and our incoherent electricity generation polices
 
Very little information out there, fella on CB show only trains people to convert so no one doing this on industrial scale to any degree
They won’t scale it up unfortunately, won’t generate enough tax to further their policies, bit like biodiesel and other things over the years
 
They won’t scale it up unfortunately, won’t generate enough tax to further their policies, bit like biodiesel and other things over the years
For me ,it would be about being able to hold on to my landcruiser, kept last one twelve years so I wouldn't mind spending a fair amount to convert as even the biggest EV is small compared to what I have.

Obviously broadly speaking, not scrapping all the metal out there is good for the environment, probably true that if governments wanted it to happen, we'd have seen conversion emerge on scale ,I suppose they want the tax revenue that new cars provide and EU governments are lobbied hard by the big car companies so may just be a mostly DIY exercise for now
 
For me ,it would be about being able to hold on to my landcruiser, kept last one twelve years so I wouldn't mind spending a fair amount to convert as even the biggest EV is small compared to what I have.

Obviously broadly speaking, not scrapping all the metal out there is good for the environment, probably true that if governments wanted it to happen, we'd have seen conversion emerge on scale ,I suppose they want the tax revenue that new cars provide and EU governments are lobbied hard by the big car companies so may just be a mostly DIY exercise for now
would you not just throw a fresh diesel into it. you d do a massive job for 10k surely. not missing the point but if the power is ultimately coming from fossil fuel anyway whats the point in going electric for now
 
Will electric cars in 10 years time be ,

Jesus , that was 1 colossal waste of money ?

A lot of things don't add up .

Battery cost/life , not to mention the ethical part of the mining part .

Where's the electricity going to come from ?

Loss if taxation revenue to government coffers .

Huge cost of ownership.
I think EV's are where diesel cars were a few decades ago. Back when a 10 yr old car was rusted through and no one wants it. Regardless of milage.
Now a 10yr old diesel is often not much the worse for ware.

5 yr old EV's are now old tech so no market.
Untill they reach the peak in terms of battery life and tech, I can't see used cars holding their value.
I could be very wrong.


I can see insentives to only charge cars during low energy demand times bevoming a reality.
The tech is probably there already.
Half price electric between 12 anf 5AM kind of thing.
Governments are bound to want to tax them soon
 
You'd imagine it shouldn't cost the earth to upgrade the battery and controller tech in some of the earlier EV's if range is the main issue with them but then that would be hurting the sales of new models.
 
Battery technology hasn't improved that much apart from how quickly they can charge. Tesla are pushing batteries to their limit to get capacity but it remains to be seen how reliable they are.
Current battery technology though is adequate for cars, there's a kia suv that will do the guts of 300 miles range. Tesla with nearly 500.
It's the trucks ships and planes that will be difficult to convert.
 
The batteries in older EVs aren't a huge issue, I would say. The power they hold degrade to something like 80% of new and pretty much stay around that. So they would still be pretty OK as a second car.

And any replaced batteries from upgraded batteries in cars can still be used for storage of power like in PV systems off grid.
 
I think EV's are where diesel cars were a few decades ago. Back when a 10 yr old car was rusted through and no one wants it. Regardless of milage.
Now a 10yr old diesel is often not much the worse for ware.

5 yr old EV's are now old tech so no market.
Untill they reach the peak in terms of battery life and tech, I can't see used cars holding their value.
I could be very wrong.


I can see insentives to only charge cars during low energy demand times bevoming a reality.
The tech is probably there already.
Half price electric between 12 anf 5AM kind of thing.
Governments are bound to want to tax them soon
used EV,s hold their value really well for the simple reason their are so few of them around for now
 
You'd imagine it shouldn't cost the earth to upgrade the battery and controller tech in some of the earlier EV's if range is the main issue with them but then that would be hurting the sales of new models.
There are tiny numbers of them out there, and let's face it the type of person that bought them wanted the newest tech gadget, very few people put new engines in 10 year old cars so not likely to do it with EV either.
 
One thing I would say a lot of diesels aren't suitable for the types of they do ie lots short journeys and lot of stop starts. Know of 2 fellas whose van and jeeps were fecked from the egr and other exhaust filtering systems because they didn't get enough long trips to get the systems up to speed. Heard of exhaust systems blocking up on tractors too they need to be run flat out on the dyno for an hour or sent away for cleaning.
For those two guys eV could be an option
 
Crowley Carbon are in partnership with a company in Wales called "electric Classic Cars", who specialise in converting classic cars to Electric. They have a number of TV series called "Vintage Voltage" which features on Quest TV which is a part of the Discovery family of satellite chanels.
A number of the vehicles in the series had Irish number plates.
 
One thing I would say a lot of diesels aren't suitable for the types of they do ie lots short journeys and lot of stop starts. Know of 2 fellas whose van and jeeps were fecked from the egr and other exhaust filtering systems because they didn't get enough long trips to get the systems up to speed. Heard of exhaust systems blocking up on tractors too they need to be run flat out on the dyno for an hour or sent away for cleaning.
For those two guys eV could be an option
Jeeps or other 3L engines suffer less from short journeys than the likes of a 1.6 diesel, some engines were noticeably more problematic too ,despite making very good engines, peugeot 1.6 diesel were notorious for DPF trouble, Ford Focus diesel used same diesel engine for years
 
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Jeeps or other 3L engines suffer less from short journeys than the likes of a 1.6 diesel, some engines were noticeably more problematic too ,despite making very good engines, peugeot 1.6 diesel were notorious for DPF trouble, Ford Focus diesel used same diesel engine for years
mazda had no dpf in their smaller engine when they had in a 2.2L.. friends 2.2 got blocked. cost approx 1300 to repair. someone else put adblue in their car and it wouldn't start after filling. these might isolated cases but i doubt it. modern diesel engines look like being alot more tricky going forward
 
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