Blackwater boy
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Do you have a heap of individual pens for them or just have all the cows and calves in 1 big pen?not for 14 days but the calf is left with its mother every night for the first week , no vaccinations
Do you have a heap of individual pens for them or just have all the cows and calves in 1 big pen?not for 14 days but the calf is left with its mother every night for the first week , no vaccinations
have 2 individual pens for the first the first night and after that groups of up to 4 cows in a pen, bear in mind i,ve a small herd of 60 or so and its a split calving season between autumn and winter so more of a spread on calving, it would be harder in a very big herd but i,ve never had scour here for over 40 yrs so i,m either very very lucky or a geniusDo you have a heap of individual pens for them or just have all the cows and calves in 1 big pen?
Anyone know where you'd get a smoke bomb to check ventilation?
Fork full of dampish straw would do the job assuming there is nothing else flammable in the shed!Feed whole milk here so all cows vaccinate and calves then get it. Noticed a big improvement with the vaccine. May have to move some calves to another yard this year for space if so they will be on milk replacer then but will likely be over 2 weeks old then.
Anyone know where you'd get a smoke bomb to check ventilation?
Do any of ye pool the biestings from the off for all calves or do ye give only the calf's mother's biestings for the first feed? In the bigger herds, would it be common for pooled biestings to be fed from the off?We feed the dams milk for first 4/5days. Pooled biestings goes to bull calves, heifers swithes to milk replacer.
Animal health Ireland and vet's advice against pooling colostrum for the prevention of johnes disease being spread.Do any of ye pool the biestings from the off for all calves or do ye give only the calf's mother's biestings for the first feed? In the bigger herds, would it be common for pooled biestings to be fed from the off?
We would always give the calf the dams milk for the 1st 3 feeds. Then they go on hole milk for another week or so excluding any cows that were been treated for mastitis or illness then onto milk replacer.Do any of ye pool the biestings from the off for all calves or do ye give only the calf's mother's biestings for the first feed? In the bigger herds, would it be common for pooled biestings to be fed from the off?
We would always give the calf the dams milk for the 1st 3 feeds. Then they go on hole milk for another week or so excluding any cows that were been treated for mastitis or illness then onto milk replacer.
Ya, that is what I was always led to believe re the transmission of Johnes, but I'm told that some of the larger herds would simply be feeding pooled colostrum from 1st milk, I presume this is for handiness sake.Animal health Ireland and vet's advice against pooling colostrum for the prevention of johnes disease being spread.
case of drs differ, patient dies ...
We are in the Jones scheme. We were told the 1st three feeds and a clean environment are utmost important but milk has to from the dam. They said if you were having problems with johnes to go straight onto milk replacer after the three feeds. Probably ya for handiest sake but does it pay in the long run?Ya, that is what I was always led to believe re the transmission of Johnes, but I'm told that some of the larger herds would simply be feeding pooled colostrum from 1st milk, I presume this is for handiness sake.
I don't know to be honest, that's why I was asking.We are in the Jones scheme. We were told the 1st three feeds and a clean environment are utmost important but milk has to from the dam. They said if you were having problems with johnes to go straight onto milk replacer after the three feeds. Probably ya for handiest sake but does it pay in the long run?
Generally feed replacement heifers direct from their mother for 2 or 3 feeds, all the rest would get pooled colostrum or transition milk for the first few days, depending on what's available.Ya, that is what I was always led to believe re the transmission of Johnes, but I'm told that some of the larger herds would simply be feeding pooled colostrum from 1st milk, I presume this is for handiness sake.
Be another month for me I'd say. Just have some slurry out on the driest ground.is any of yee out to grass yet with the cows down the country yet.ground should be in good order and lots of grass
Good mate of mine bought them, 350 cow herd, cant remember what he told me he paid for them, empty rate of 8% this year, reckons they work extremely well and is probably as good as another labour unit for the 12 weeks of breeding plus there's no need of bullsAnyone else considering collars for cows this year or got them in recent years? Something im highly considering looking into SCR allflex collars and working out just over 350/month i think over 3 years for a 100 cow herd which isnt savage id be thinking? 350x12=4200€ If it saved 1 cow with ecoli or got 10 more cows back in calf earlier or just back in calf itd have itself covered? I dont know maybe im just trying to justify it but its not sounding bad and anyone that has them are delighted with them
Have the sense hub collars here. I find them great. Wouldn't be without them now. Have it in 4 yrs now and has saved a couple of cows in that space. It's the ease around breeding here now is great. No looking at cows scratching your head wondering what is bulling. Saving on straws aswell don't forget.Anyone else considering collars for cows this year or got them in recent years? Something im highly considering looking into SCR allflex collars and working out just over 350/month i think over 3 years for a 100 cow herd which isnt savage id be thinking? 350x12=4200€ If it saved 1 cow with ecoli or got 10 more cows back in calf earlier or just back in calf itd have itself covered? I dont know maybe im just trying to justify it but its not sounding bad and anyone that has them are delighted with them
Warranty for 5 years, they expect an average of 7 years, I think.How long do the collars last for, i assume they have a battery that runs out?
So after 7 years do you have to just upgrade collars for a small fee or back to the 350 a month for three years again?Warranty for 5 years, they expect an average of 7 years, I think.
Sorry, those figures were for purchase of the collars. According as they power off, you'd be replacing them with new collars again @€120 eachSo after 7 years do you have to just upgrade collars for a small fee or back to the 350 a month for three years again?