To be honest, if an ordinary Joe soap stumbled on this thread they would look at what you and I posted and say look at mucky and him making a fortune from his 20 suckler cows. He's ripping barrowsiderand his fellow finishers off, charging extortionate prices for cattle and is the root and cause of barrowsides farm being loss making. To be fair, I'd like to point out that if you feel that what I posted in previous posts is dismissive of the people buying my cattle then I feel that what you posted is dismissive of the people who breed and produce the cattle that you buy and feed in anticipation of meeting your expenses. You have other options and you can choose not to buy at all. The man who breeds them doesn't have as many options - only when to sell. Not having someone to buy weanlings could be a good thing for farmers selling in your area. It could encourage farmers to change their system as it has done in this area. Some have changed as we have to keeping cattle that we breed for longer. Some have gone info rearing dairy replacements. Other have gone into calf to store systems. As I said, selling weanlings has proven to be loss making for many in this area. Again, no offence to anyone, but suckler farmers had to sell at a loss for much of the time so that the next man could make a profit from it. That ship had to run aground at some stage as it isn't or wasn't (in our case) sustainable and just eroded sfp.