Meanwhile urea is available for €280 in Europ and less in uk when strong sterling is accounted for, great to see it costs €75 a ton to get it to our shores. Would you get urea hauled by road from uk for 40 a ton?
Our importers have bought disastrously so we are going to carry their mistakes
On tff forum the big lads claim to be getting urea at £210 and MOP at £228, that's €282 and €296 at today's exchange rate... Deliver feb pay may. YikesOssie,
If your starting hauling fertliser in from the UK or mainland europe for those prices put my name on a load or two of it :Thumbp2::Thumbp2:
Saw that, it just doesn't add up.On tff forum the big lads claim to be getting urea at £210 and MOP at £228, that's €282 and €296 at today's exchange rate... Deliver feb pay may. Yikes
I think it'll fall here too but it'll be too late for this year.....Id say it will fall further.
All other comodities are well back.
Im 09 it fell but not untill late in the year iirc?
Unfortunately is doesnt, to have product in blenders yards for bagging they would have to buy months in advance to have it ready to go for January and February, prices must have been higher then but I'm not into long term trends of urea dap and potash prices so I don't know. It's just too dear to make it stack up on tillage ground with the way forward prices are. When 60 odd % of tillage is conacre ground that stands to loose massively again and the knockon throughout the country would be huge.Saw that, it just doesn't add up.
things wouldnt be long addding up for the protected market here if a 3000t barge arrived into a munster port after being loaded with black sea Urea at the current price of €180 FOB.Saw that, it just doesn't add up.
Didn't see it yet. Sulphur should only add about €7/tn.Did anyone else spot the CAN+S price in the Journal?
They were saying over 100 dearer than CAN, that can't be right can it?
It might be useful to in this thread to say whether it's bulk or 50kg or 500kg or indeed Toplift. Just makes comparisons useful.
Didn't see it yet. Sulphur should only add about €7/tn.
Haven't bought anything yet here.That's what I was thinking too based on past experience!
Must be a typo.
Haven't bought anything yet here.
I never buy CAN without S.
Ozzy I'll take a load and I'll pay ya when the aid comes!!! What site do you use to follow those FOB prices? Is the DAP and MOP charts too??things wouldnt be long addding up for the protected market here if a 3000t barge arrived into a munster port after being loaded with black sea Urea at the current price of €180 FOB.
Our importers must be either terrible buyers of raw material, completely inefficient at what they are doing or else creaming it. Probably a mix of all three.
So they would bang out the line that "it was bought 6 months ago before international prices dropped, well if it was it could have being bought @ €245t in June 2015 or if they really were really good with the crystal ball €230 in August. Either way they are putting €100 a ton on old stock. Of course if prices shot up on monday morning by €100 a ton we would be fed the line that the work on replacement cost when selling fertiliser and it what the spot market is today that they price their goods on.
I would say i could easily sell a few tons of prilled urea that can be bought today for June delivery @ €160t FOB. If i decided to add €100 for my pocket and expenses I would still have plenty takers @ €260 a ton for July delivery for grassland farmers
Usually €8-10 for 5% in can and €7 for 3%/4% in compounds is the norm I thinkDidn't see it yet. Sulphur should only add about €7/tn.