Herbal leys

In which way do you look at margins though? Cheapest milk you'll make is cut the cow numbers in half and let them loose. If you own the land.
But if you have repayments to make they'd don't shrink so you have to have that amount of money in the bank at a certain time.
I think we have a certain amount of money must come off the land every year and we have to reach that in whatever way is necessary. Regardless of margins.
Would you not include a rental charge for your own land as part of the costs? The value of the land has little to do with production but the rental value does, its like not including a labour charge and comparing your cost to a contractor
 
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In which way do you look at margins though? Cheapest milk you'll make is cut the cow numbers in half and let them loose. If you own the land.
But if you have repayments to make they'd don't shrink so you have to have that amount of money in the bank at a certain time.
I think we have a certain amount of money must come off the land every year and we have to reach that in whatever way is necessary. Regardless of margins.
You have to look at the margin per ha though and in the scenario above it is unlikely the increase in margin per cow will make up for the overall reduction caused by having less cows
 
Starting to pop up now, went in last Thursday and Friday:
 

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Put the sheep and lambs into mine 10 days ago . Plenty of plantains and clovers but grass was a bit thin on the ground. The sheep didn’t like it at first and broke out into a neighbors grass field! They have settled down now and are finding a bit to eat between the weeds . I’ll have to top it fairly high again soon to stop the thistles seeding.
 
66433E07-3D22-43DF-B052-408C409F30C1.jpeg9895C873-85C5-445B-A2F5-2A5438F7B72F.jpeg After first grazing with sheep, then topped with mower to get the thistles and shepherd’s purse. Still plenty of clovers and plantains but grass still a bit scarce . I don’t think that the swarths of rubbish will hinder regrowth.
 
A few pics of my own plenty weeds ahead of the first grazing, I probably let let it get too strong but happy with it so far good regrowth after topping. Got the topping skids for the khun to top it higher than I used to. 2nd pic is the regrowth after a week
 

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In my case I've drained land normally get on it from April to November. Normally get a wetland mix but I'd be nowhere as wet as some lads ground would be. Just interested in trying it to see how it fairs out

That is kind of where I'm going. I've a reclamation job to finish off and I'm not sure what the longevity of grass seeds will be in that type of ground.
 
In my case I've drained land normally get on it from April to November. Normally get a wetland mix but I'd be nowhere as wet as some lads ground would be. Just interested in trying it to see how it fairs out

That is kind of where I'm going. I've a reclamation job to finish off and I'm not sure what the longevity of grass seeds will be in that type of ground.

I gathered that herbal leys wouldn't be long lasting ? 4 , 5 , maybe 6 years ?
I know that they don't like mowing , poaching , require long rest periods between grazings .
 
I gathered that herbal leys wouldn't be long lasting ? 4 , 5 , maybe 6 years ?
I know that they don't like mowing , poaching , require long rest periods between grazings .

I'm thinking of getting some cheap and cheerful in first and see how it goes, I won't be surprised if I have to go back in with a digger again here.

Will be a 2022 finish anyway.
 
Why are you so fond of Timothy?
It seems to always be done well, especially when PRG is doing poorly. Brings fibre to the party which is very important, as pointless having PRG running through animals and they not able to make use of it. Timothy will also do well in harsh conditions and were soil wouldnt do well with PRG. Its a grass like oats. Pity some of the newer varieties in NZ and Oz are available here yet
 
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That is kind of where I'm going. I've a reclamation job to finish off and I'm not sure what the longevity of grass seeds will be in that type of ground.
Short life span 4-5 years from what I've read and been told. Plan to keep topping to a minimum. I'd normally only top a field once a year anyway just to even up the grass and knock back docks and thistles. If it works out I'll probably just look to spray off and stitch in a new crop in 4or 5 years.
 
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