Instaling CCTV system .

bk1991

bk1991

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I'm looking at instaling cameras around the house and farm . How easy are theese to install . I had a guy round to look at the job but he never came back to me so i was thinkimg of doing it myself . I was told to get a good quality DVR and good quality Cameras . Id need at least 2 ptz cameras and maby at least 6 standard ones . So id be looking at a 8 channell dvr ??? What cables would i need to be running And where is best to get the cables conectors and cameras ???
 
I'd go for an nvr better pic also get 1 with POE Then ur just run-in one cat 5 to each cam . I have 3 hicvison an 2 old ones An nvr is 450 +VAT cams 100 to 150+ VAT I get them off Tony Tully drung cavan
 
im in the same boat I was looking at wild life cameras but I dunno could they be trusted.i was thinking something wireless as I don't them to visable I want something tidy
 
Go with IP cameras and in particular Hikvison/Dahua. Hikvision is my preference as they are so easy to find and purchase. I purchase my whole kit from England being from NI. Don't get bullet cameras. Get turrets with EXIR. You won't have to clean the cobwebs all the time.

Also, if you are gonna use 8 cams, get a 16 cam NVR. What you don't know is an 8-cam NVR might have an incoming bandwidth of 80mbps so if you got a few 4MP cams, a few higher MP cams then you run out of bandwidth and not be able to run all 8 cams. Also, you have room for expansion.

Make sure you get the 4K model of the NVR. Watching the cams on a 4K to is really nice.

Forget wireless camera's. Better to connect the camera to a specialise wireless unit.
 
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Lads, I’m thinking of sticking up a few cameras around the yard and old house here. It’s on a junction where a boreen meets a ‘main road’ and has access from both roads, so very accessible. I’d just like to keep an eye on who is coming and going around the place. There’d be nothing of any major value left around the place but I’d rather not have people nosing around either.
I want to put in Wi-Fi in the house also and the NVR or DVR can go in there also. Looking for recommendations on a camera kit and a router that will take a SIM card. 4 cameras would be plenty for the time being anyway. The kit above caught my eye but wouldn’t be too well up on cameras.
Are NVR systems worth the extra over DVR ones? Are there better makes to be looking at for similar budget? Ideally I want to have a router and camera system under €1000. Can stretch a bit if it’d be worthwhile for a better system and of course, if it can be done for less, that’s always good. Any suggestions welcome
 
ZetorMan98 said:
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Lads, I’m thinking of sticking up a few cameras around the yard and old house here. It’s on a junction where a boreen meets a ‘main road’ and has access from both roads, so very accessible. I’d just like to keep an eye on who is coming and going around the place. There’d be nothing of any major value left around the place but I’d rather not have people nosing around either.
I want to put in Wi-Fi in the house also and the NVR or DVR can go in there also. Looking for recommendations on a camera kit and a router that will take a SIM card. 4 cameras would be plenty for the time being anyway. The kit above caught my eye but wouldn’t be too well up on cameras.
Are NVR systems worth the extra over DVR ones? Are there better makes to be looking at for similar budget? Ideally I want to have a router and camera system under €1000. Can stretch a bit if it’d be worthwhile for a better system and of course, if it can be done for less, that’s always good. Any suggestions welcome
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Don’t take this wrong , but them kits are shit
Go on to RF CONCEPTS, they deliver to Ireland,
Look at hikvision HiLook 5-8mp colour vu cameras , it’s a midrange ip camera , has full night time colour , 2.8 lense
Pick a HiLook nvr with a 4TB hard drive and Poe , they have sim routers also ,
 
ZetorMan98 said:
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Lads, I’m thinking of sticking up a few cameras around the yard and old house here. It’s on a junction where a boreen meets a ‘main road’ and has access from both roads, so very accessible. I’d just like to keep an eye on who is coming and going around the place. There’d be nothing of any major value left around the place but I’d rather not have people nosing around either.
I want to put in Wi-Fi in the house also and the NVR or DVR can go in there also. Looking for recommendations on a camera kit and a router that will take a SIM card. 4 cameras would be plenty for the time being anyway. The kit above caught my eye but wouldn’t be too well up on cameras.
Are NVR systems worth the extra over DVR ones? Are there better makes to be looking at for similar budget? Ideally I want to have a router and camera system under €1000. Can stretch a bit if it’d be worthwhile for a better system and of course, if it can be done for less, that’s always good. Any suggestions welcome
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Nvr means the cameras are ran over cat 5/6 cable where as a dvr needs coaxial cabling to each camera.

An nvr is very simple to set up from a wiring point of view as once your camera is connected to the network it’s hooked to it should be able to find them. So if for example you had the nvr set up in the house with a pair of antennas spreading the Wi-Fi out to the sheds you can just hook the cameras back to the antenna through a network switch Rather than having to run each cable back to the box separately
 
Mayo man said:
Don’t take this wrong , but them kits are shit
Go on to RF CONCEPTS, they deliver to Ireland,
Look at hikvision HiLook 5-8mp colour vu cameras , it’s a midrange ip camera , has full night time colour , 2.8 lense
Pick a HiLook nvr with a 4TB hard drive and Poe , they have sim routers also ,
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drew said:
Nvr means the cameras are ran over cat 5/6 cable where as a dvr needs coaxial cabling to each camera.

An nvr is very simple to set up from a wiring point of view as once your camera is connected to the network it’s hooked to it should be able to find them. So if for example you had the nvr set up in the house with a pair of antennas spreading the Wi-Fi out to the sheds you can just hook the cameras back to the antenna through a network switch Rather than having to run each cable back to the box separately
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Are ye confident enough in wireless cameras over wired cameras in that a Google search would suggest that wireless can be jammed? As I said in post #9,090 recent events weren't too far from here and it has focused my mind to get cameras.
I reckon 6 cameras all attached to the house would provide all round cover and being attached to the one structure could be wired back to a central point easily.
All suggestions, advice and help greatly appreciated.
 
bagenal said:
Are ye confident enough in wireless cameras over wired cameras in that a Google search would suggest that wireless can be jammed? As I said in post #9,090 recent events weren't too far from here and it has focused my mind to get cameras.
I reckon 6 cameras all attached to the house would provide all round cover and being attached to the one structure could be wired back to a central point easily.
All suggestions, advice and help greatly appreciated.
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No unmonitored camera system is going to give 100% protection, how likely is it criminals are going to jam camera signals V's just covering their faces? Or even a bright torch can be used to blind most wired camera's long enough to get close to disable them anyway. I think wireless cameras are as much of a deterrent as any for a lot of opportunistic criminals, those determined to get by your CCTV system will regardless.
 
bagenal said:
Are ye confident enough in wireless cameras over wired cameras in that a Google search would suggest that wireless can be jammed? As I said in post #9,090 recent events weren't too far from here and it has focused my mind to get cameras.
I reckon 6 cameras all attached to the house would provide all round cover and being attached to the one structure could be wired back to a central point easily.
All suggestions, advice and help greatly appreciated.
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I wouldn’t rely fully on the cheaper Wi-Fi ones to be hard to jam anyways tbh. But the nvr ones can be ran on cat5/6 cable so are essentially hard wired. The big advantage to that is that the cameras can be powered over cat5/6 using Poe(power over Ethernet) so you only need to run the one cable where as an analogue camera will need a power source fed to it aswell.

It suited me for that reason as there’s lights in the sheds but now power at the back where the cameras are.
 
drew said:
I wouldn’t rely fully on the cheaper Wi-Fi ones to be hard to jam anyways tbh. But the nvr ones can be ran on cat5/6 cable so are essentially hard wired. The big advantage to that is that the cameras can be powered over cat5/6 using Poe(power over Ethernet) so you only need to run the one cable where as an analogue camera will need a power source fed to it aswell.

It suited me for that reason as there’s lights in the sheds but now power at the back where the cameras are.
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You can get single cable to carry video and power for analogue cameras too
 
Paw said:
You can get single cable to carry video and power for analogue cameras too
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True that, I even run some analog cameras over CAT5 for power and video. But it's a bit messy compared to a proper IP POE system, especially if using POE switches.
 
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Camera system is like most other security devices, hopefully a deterrent or something to make thieves move along to somewhere else
If they are determined to get in to your place then very hard stopped.
We have a professional installation of cameras,had some before the tourist business and more now,it's a bit if peace of mind to be able to see what has been happening if you notice anything out of place.
I looked at a self installed system and it wasn't working properly when he went to show it to me .
I think its about 8 years since the first install which was around 5k,there would be twice that spent by now at least but we are covering a big area,our place is spread out.
Had lightning damage two years ago , insurance covered it.over the following year most of the original cameras went faulty and had to be replaced, supposedly something to do with the lightning.
The same crowd do the fire alarm system for us,we find them sound.
If you are tech minded DIY may be fine but for me I prefer a professional job in this case as basically if it's not right it's useless if it's not working the time you need it
 
Farmer-Ed said:
True that, I even run some analog cameras over CAT5 for power and video. But it's a bit messy compared to a proper IP POE system, especially if using POE switches.
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Yes POE is much cleaner with just the one connection at each end of the cable.
 
We have a hikvision system. All works OK but we keep losing the point to point connection. Have bigger receivers and all looks to be 3 bars for connection. If we reset the point to point it remakes the connection but losses it after 20 minutes. Any ideas, its clear sight over less than 100 metres.

If it can't be sorted to last long term will have to Bury a wire from a different shed as we are not cutting concrete and the only spare buried pipe we have is beside a 25mm electric wire.
 
We have a camera 100m away but ran a cable overhead for it.the phone line in to the house is in the same place so we just ran another cable a bit lower down on the poles
 
Is there anyone to be recommend for supply and fit in the south Tipperary area ? After sales is highly important to me too.i was in touch with a cashel man who's company was recommended to me and he didn't bother his ass to even come out to see what I wanted so needless to say I won't be bothering with him.
If anyone has any other recommendations I would appreciate it either here or through a pm
 
The Stig said:
Is there anyone to be recommend for supply and fit in the south Tipperary area ? After sales is highly important to me too.i was in touch with a cashel man who's company was recommended to me and he didn't bother his ass to even come out to see what I wanted so needless to say I won't be bothering with him.
If anyone has any other recommendations I would appreciate it either here or through a pm
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Is it a cctv system or a calving camera you are looking for?
 
william86 said:
We have a hikvision system. All works OK but we keep losing the point to point connection. Have bigger receivers and all looks to be 3 bars for connection. If we reset the point to point it remakes the connection but losses it after 20 minutes. Any ideas, its clear sight over less than 100 metres.

If it can't be sorted to last long term will have to Bury a wire from a different shed as we are not cutting concrete and the only spare buried pipe we have is beside a 25mm electric wire.
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What aerials are in your point to point ? I had a problem with mine in bridge mode. The company recommended standard ap mode and it works fairly well does need reboot once every 3-4 months though so I must setup an automated restart.
 
towbar said:
What aerials are in your point to point ? I had a problem with mine in bridge mode. The company recommended standard ap mode and it works fairly well does need reboot once every 3-4 months though so I must setup an automated restart.
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uni-something or something like that, yes bridge mode seems to ring a bell, was it hard to change to ap mode, I don't mind having to power cycle it every so often.
 
I used engenius devices and the reseller was Solwise. Here was their advise at the time

“in the EU there are rules that say if a 5GHz wifi device perceives any non-wifi 5GHz wifi interference then the device MUST channel hop. So if you have a bridge to bridge then if either end sees some interference it MUST channel hop. That kills the link! Now if you do WDS AP to WFS Station then it's only the AP end that is forced to do the hop because it is the master device; when you have bridge to bridge mode then BOTH ends are masters and can therefore hop. So WDS AP/Station the AP is the master and the Station is a Client. If the AP hops then the station will search it out and re-connect. “
 
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