Masseyrk662 pics

drew

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That might be one of the company’s first harrows and they may have changed the direction or it may simply be an assembly mistake done here, I’d doubt a factory could assemble harrows differently but anything’s possible! As long as replacement discs are priced reasonably and hubs etc don’t give trouble I’d be happy enough.
I know it’s only something minor really but just something that threw me, it’s definitely from the factory as the beams are welded in and the fold up disc was on the opposite sides.
 

Arthur

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One thing that really put me off them was he had 2 in the shed one behind the other, on the front one the front discs were tilted in one direction and on the second one they were the opposite, I know it would make no difference to how it worked or anything just it kind of threw me a bit that the factory didn’t keep things consistent...
Looking at the advert the discs appear to be the opposite way between picture 2 and picture 3.
 

no name

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Looks very similar to the one above.

I see the hubs are greasable whereby the mandam are sealed.
 
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Bog Man

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Looks very similar to the one above.

See if it is possible to get the Hubs off the shelf because if the company fades away you will be snookered if you were missing one hub .
 

Merv_B

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Mentioned it on another disc harrow thread but I think it would be worth getting at least one complete left/right spare leg assembly so you can just unbolt it at the frame bracket and get back working and repair the bearing another day
 

MF30

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Mentioned it on another disc harrow thread but I think it would be worth getting at least one complete left/right spare leg assembly so you can just unbolt it at the frame bracket and get back working and repair the bearing another day
I wonder if they are greasable should the hubs/bearings last a lifetime? Unless they manage to work loose the locking pin inside they should be very longlasting with regular greasing. I repaired a Tolmet hub and it was scarce in the grease department.
 

gone

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I wonder if they are greasable should the hubs/bearings last a lifetime? Unless they manage to work loose the locking pin inside they should be very longlasting with regular greasing. I repaired a Tolmet hub and it was scarce in the grease department.
I don't have a clue whether the Namyslo have sealed oil hubs or greaseable standard hubs, but both have there positives and negatives.
The sealed oil hubs will tend to last longer, but when they start to let go they all tend need replacing and are dear.
The greaseable standard hubs tend to have some go a bit earlier and others that last a lot longer, but are cheaper and easier to do.
No matter which hub it is very cheap and easy to have at least one left and right leg spare to swop out quickly and easily.
 

Merv_B

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I wonder if they are greasable should the hubs/bearings last a lifetime? Unless they manage to work loose the locking pin inside they should be very longlasting with regular greasing. I repaired a Tolmet hub and it was scarce in the grease department.
Depends on the angle of the disc what forces are applied to the bearing and can dirt get in to the bearings. If you look at the various Polish disc harrows on Agriaffaires most are only asking a few hundred to add sealed bearings.
The Mandam looks tidy but it is almost Western Europe established manufacturer price but without the resale value.
 

nashmach

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Last couple of years been thinking about buying a disc harrow, mainly just for freshening up ploughed ground in reseeds or ripping up the wild bird covers which we sow a lot of on hire. Decided to keep the amazone offered to us earlier this year, a lot of work to be done with it but I have from now until February before I get busy with hire work again so it’s something to do more than anything. Got a full set of discs and there bolts and nuts full set of bearings, full set of seals, new rollers for transport position, new bushings and new crumbler bearings for it. Altogether the disc and all of the parts came to 4820 including the vat. Have all my own labour to put in now but it’s more something to do than anything now for winter, might get it sand blasted and sprayed too depending how it goes

I've the words of a second hand machinery dealer who I've got good time for right ring through my ears reading that. Who is going to buy these disc harrows realistically when they are worn out and need lots of wearing metal.

Looking at the prices above for the parts alone he was not far wrong!
 

Masseyrk662

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I've the words of a second hand machinery dealer who I've got good time for right ring through my ears reading that. Who is going to buy these disc harrows realistically when they are worn out and need lots of wearing metal.

Looking at the prices above for the parts alone he was not far wrong!
The disc was 3000 including the vat the parts were 1820 including the vat
Edit 1920 including the vat for parts
 
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MF30

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I don't have a clue whether the Namyslo have sealed oil hubs or greaseable standard hubs, but both have there positives and negatives.
The sealed oil hubs will tend to last longer, but when they start to let go they all tend need replacing and are dear.
The greaseable standard hubs tend to have some go a bit earlier and others that last a lot longer, but are cheaper and easier to do.
No matter which hub it is very cheap and easy to have at least one left and right leg spare to swop out quickly and easily.
I will price up replacement discs and a spare hub/leg before I buy, 40% discount when new might not be a bad deal.
 

MF30

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Depends on the angle of the disc what forces are applied to the bearing and can dirt get in to the bearings. If you look at the various Polish disc harrows on Agriaffaires most are only asking a few hundred to add sealed bearings.
The Mandam looks tidy but it is almost Western Europe established manufacturer price but without the resale value.
I would have thought the only difference between a sealed bearing and greaseable hub was the price of a grease nipple fitted and the inner seals removed in the bearings?
 

MF30

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I've the words of a second hand machinery dealer who I've got good time for right ring through my ears reading that. Who is going to buy these disc harrows realistically when they are worn out and need lots of wearing metal.

Looking at the prices above for the parts alone he was not far wrong!
Like all disc harrows when worn out all you’ve left is a frame and crumbler, as long as bearings are standard and discs are available/competitively priced they should be as saleable. How long a set of discs will last in stubble is another guess...
 

Masseyrk662

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Ended up doing the 12 discs on the back row today and the bearings, probably could have got away with doing just 3 of the bearings on the back row, but Iv heard the serrated disc is harder on bearings than the round disc, whether that’s true or not I don’t know, the seal kit I’m using is a kit for 17.50 it’s not the genuine amazone kit, apparently if you do the bearings before they get bad you can get away with this kit rather than the genuine 70 euro amazone seal kit, might leave 3 or 4 of the best bearings on the front row and see how long they last. Could end up sickening myself if they don’t go for a few years then :rolleyes:
 
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