New wheelbarrow

josh

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Nearly everytime I open this thread, I expect to see an actual wheelbarrow but then I'm pleasantly surprised to see the progress you're making. Nice work as always JohnBoy :thumbup1:
 

JohnBoy

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Well that didn't last long. Have gone from amazing hydraulics this morning to unable to lift the transport box. Everything was fine one load, the next it wouldn't lift, now it won't lift it empty!
 

MF30

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Well that didn't last long. Have gone from amazing hydraulics this morning to unable to lift the transport box. Everything was fine one load, the next it wouldn't lift, now it won't lift it empty!
Underneath the dump valve on the right side is a control valve plunger that can stick if used infrequently. If the pump is not straining or noisy this might be your next port of call. Half hour job.
 

JohnBoy

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Underneath the dump valve on the right side is a control valve plunger that can stick if used infrequently. If the pump is not straining or noisy this might be your next port of call. Half hour job.
Or it could be that I'm a f*ckin eejit and have been hitting off the three valves and turned the linkage off.
 

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gone

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Or it could be that I'm a f*ckin eejit and have been hitting off the three valves and turned the linkage off.
Been there done very similar, had to ring the dealer twice when the Deutz refused to move, both times I had slightly moved the lever that engages the creeper gears when getting a jumper/ coat from behind the seat, slightly embarrassing the first time, felt like a complete fool the second time.
Still easier to get over than an actual problem.
 

drew

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Been there done very similar, had to ring the dealer twice when the Deutz refused to move, both times I had slightly moved the lever that engages the creeper gears when getting a jumper/ coat from behind the seat, slightly embarrassing the first time, felt like a complete fool the second time.
Still easier to get over than an actual problem.
Didn’t realise you were Jeremy clarkson 😂😂😂
 

JohnBoy

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Been having cutting out issues the last two weekends, at first I thought it was the tank breather as I swore I heard a little suck in when I opened it to check if I was out of fuel but it turned out to be dirty fuel. first bit of proper use in years I suppose stirring up the bottom of the tank.

First I check the filter and while it didnt look amazing it didnt look blocked either. I said I'd replace it anyway, had stuff on hire so needed to keep the show on the road. I don't have fuel filters in stock at home and dont have somewhere to buy them on a sunday morning so had to use this:

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On one hand it's a pity as it was a cool thing to have on the shelf and came from cleaning out a relative's farm. but on the other hand she'd never be one for being emotionally attached to a fuel filter if a machine was down!

Thing is that wasn't my problem at all. I'd forgotten their's a strainer under the tank. and that looked like.........

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Cleaned that and we were back in action. I find it quite hard to bleed though.

I bleed the bottom screw on the pump, it sprays. Then I bleed the top screw which only ever seems to dribble. Then I crack the 4 injector lines, closing 1 and 4 first then turn it over again and close 2 and 3 as they seem to flow later than 1 and 4. At this stage it still will not start. needs a sniff of easy start and then it'll fire and run perfect. never needs easy start except for when bleeding, in normal operation it will start in a turn or two from cold, it's a great starter. Am I missing a trick on the bleed process?
 

Ptk44

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Been having cutting out issues the last two weekends, at first I thought it was the tank breather as I swore I heard a little suck in when I opened it to check if I was out of fuel but it turned out to be dirty fuel. first bit of proper use in years I suppose stirring up the bottom of the tank.

First I check the filter and while it didnt look amazing it didnt look blocked either. I said I'd replace it anyway, had stuff on hire so needed to keep the show on the road. I don't have fuel filters in stock at home and dont have somewhere to buy them on a sunday morning so had to use this:

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On one hand it's a pity as it was a cool thing to have on the shelf and came from cleaning out a relative's farm. but on the other hand she'd never be one for being emotionally attached to a fuel filter if a machine was down!

Thing is that wasn't my problem at all. I'd forgotten their's a strainer under the tank. and that looked like.........

View attachment 113364

Cleaned that and we were back in action. I find it quite hard to bleed though.

I bleed the bottom screw on the pump, it sprays. Then I bleed the top screw which only ever seems to dribble. Then I crack the 4 injector lines, closing 1 and 4 first then turn it over again and close 2 and 3 as they seem to flow later than 1 and 4. At this stage it still will not start. needs a sniff of easy start and then it'll fire and run perfect. never needs easy start except for when bleeding, in normal operation it will start in a turn or two from cold, it's a great starter. Am I missing a trick on the bleed process?
Is it a rotary pump on your 4600?
They are always difficult to bleed?
Best to have a fairly full tank of fuel.
 

KTM 450

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Been having cutting out issues the last two weekends, at first I thought it was the tank breather as I swore I heard a little suck in when I opened it to check if I was out of fuel but it turned out to be dirty fuel. first bit of proper use in years I suppose stirring up the bottom of the tank.

First I check the filter and while it didnt look amazing it didnt look blocked either. I said I'd replace it anyway, had stuff on hire so needed to keep the show on the road. I don't have fuel filters in stock at home and dont have somewhere to buy them on a sunday morning so had to use this:

View attachment 113363

On one hand it's a pity as it was a cool thing to have on the shelf and came from cleaning out a relative's farm. but on the other hand she'd never be one for being emotionally attached to a fuel filter if a machine was down!

Thing is that wasn't my problem at all. I'd forgotten their's a strainer under the tank. and that looked like.........

View attachment 113364

Cleaned that and we were back in action. I find it quite hard to bleed though.

I bleed the bottom screw on the pump, it sprays. Then I bleed the top screw which only ever seems to dribble. Then I crack the 4 injector lines, closing 1 and 4 first then turn it over again and close 2 and 3 as they seem to flow later than 1 and 4. At this stage it still will not start. needs a sniff of easy start and then it'll fire and run perfect. never needs easy start except for when bleeding, in normal operation it will start in a turn or two from cold, it's a great starter. Am I missing a trick on the bleed process?
I'm afraid I am of no help to you, it was always good to start, no doubt my old man probably did bleed it at some stage but we cant ask him anymore. Sorry about that.
 

JohnBoy

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I'm afraid I am of no help to you, it was always good to start, no doubt my old man probably did bleed it at some stage but we cant ask him anymore. Sorry about that.
Nothing at all to be sorry about. it's a cracker to start normally. I just feel like I'm missing something on the bleed process.
 

JohnBoy

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Is it a rotary pump on your 4600?
They are always difficult to bleed?
Best to have a fairly full tank of fuel.

I think he means the DB ,never seen a 4cyl 4600.


Th' Lancashire lad is right. But if it was the 4600 then yes, it's a bit of a mare to bleed as it doesnt have a lift pump but once it's bled it'll fire, this isnt firing the first time without a little spray of love
 

scoffcruddle

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Th' Lancashire lad is right. But if it was the 4600 then yes, it's a bit of a mare to bleed as it doesnt have a lift pump but once it's bled it'll fire, this isnt firing the first time without a little spray of love
Has the pump got a retarder screw?

My 3cyl 880 had one on its cav pump,made a real difference to cold starts.
 
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