Older sheds - haysheds, leantos etc

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Going to reroof an old shed here during the Summer. Three span round roof with a lean to. About 45ft from the front at the round roof to the back of the lean to.
Back pillars are ok, middle ones ok, might need to change one of them. The front four pillars will need to be replaced.
Trying to come up with the best plan so I can order up the materials.

The plan we have at the minute is to run on the lean to part to match adjacent roof but to continue on the lean to to the front of the shed. So the front pillars will be a bit longer. Then order up the sheets to do the full length in one sheet. Timbers should be ok we think unless a closer look changes our mind. So I’d be replacing the front four girders and the sheets. Will probably sheet down the top of the front.
We have a slatted tank in one span.

Would that sound like an ok plan?
 
JohnBoy said:
I have no idea what you're planning.

Any chance of a sketch or two?
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I’d never make an artist.
 
The Wexican said:
I’d never make an artist.
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Still tells a thousand words.

Do the front pillars need replacing anyway?

If not and cost is a factor how would it work out to shorten the middle pillars? Do you need the full height?

Also how easy for are 45foot sheets? And how hard to handle? Be a mighty job to have no joints and if you can handle them you'd have it sheeted in a flash.
 
JohnBoy said:
Still tells a thousand words.

Do the front pillars need replacing anyway?

If not and cost is a factor how would it work out to shorten the middle pillars? Do you need the full height?

Also how easy for are 45foot sheets? And how hard to handle? Be a mighty job to have no joints and if you can handle them you'd have it sheeted in a flash.
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Local lad will be at it with us. It was his idea to get the full length sheets. I asked about handling them and he says it’s not a problem.

Front pillars need to be replaced. Might replace one of the four middle ones. There’s a roof adjacent to the lean to. That’s why we’re thinking to keep that the same to the middle pillars.

Don’t really need the height but the steeper slope should help ventilation and we can leave an outlet at the top and then sheet down a bit to keep out the weather high up.
 
What height is the back pillar as it is?

The front could be an awful height.

I've a similar shed here and will likely replace it with an A frame in time.
 
mlelect said:
If it was me I would put a portal frame over the round roof part with the same pitch as the leanto and leave the leanto as is. Would look much better than that long leanto roof you are planning.
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Unless you're planning on feeding along the front face, in which case height becomes an issue.
 
The way we’re doing it we’re keeping the back wall, the back row of pillars and most of the middle row. We should be able to use nearly all the timbers as well.
Costs should be time, front row of pillars, roof sheets.

I’ll see who does kit sheds around and price it up to check.

This shed can’t really be seen. I don’t want it to look horrendous but I’d prioritise function over fashion. Whatever I can save on it I have other places to spend it.

I’ll work out again what height the front of it would be but I think the pillars should be about 4 foot longer and the point of the shed wouldn’t be much or any higher than the top of the round roof. I’ll double check that.

An A frame would probably be better but would take a bit more putting together and I’m wondering what would I really gain from it.

We drive in from the front at the round roof end, slats on the left storage on the right. Feed up the left side of the middle. Have been know to bed the right side as well at times if needed.
 
The Wexican said:
The way we’re doing it we’re keeping the back wall, the back row of pillars and most of the middle row. We should be able to use nearly all the timbers as well.
Costs should be time, front row of pillars, roof sheets.

I’ll see who does kit sheds around and price it up to check.

This shed can’t really be seen. I don’t want it to look horrendous but I’d prioritise function over fashion. Whatever I can save on it I have other places to spend it.

I’ll work out again what height the front of it would be but I think the pillars should be about 4 foot longer and the point of the shed wouldn’t be much or any higher than the top of the round roof. I’ll double check that.

An A frame would probably be better but would take a bit more putting together and I’m wondering what would I really gain from it.

We drive in from the front at the round roof end, slats on the left storage on the right. Feed up the left side of the middle. Have been know to bed the right side as well at times if needed.
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If the timbers are good would you not just replace the tin like for like and keep a round roof?
 
The Wexican said:
The way we’re doing it we’re keeping the back wall, the back row of pillars and most of the middle row. We should be able to use nearly all the timbers as well.
Costs should be time, front row of pillars, roof sheets.

I’ll see who does kit sheds around and price it up to check.

This shed can’t really be seen. I don’t want it to look horrendous but I’d prioritise function over fashion. Whatever I can save on it I have other places to spend it.

I’ll work out again what height the front of it would be but I think the pillars should be about 4 foot longer and the point of the shed wouldn’t be much or any higher than the top of the round roof. I’ll double check that.

An A frame would probably be better but would take a bit more putting together and I’m wondering what would I really gain from it.

We drive in from the front at the round roof end, slats on the left storage on the right. Feed up the left side of the middle. Have been know to bed the right side as well at times if needed.
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What is the full width and depth of the shed, a floor plan with a few dimensions would be a great help for advice. I would be prepared to spend extra, you will have this shed for the rest of your farming days
 
Ozzy Scott said:
What is the full width and depth of the shed, a floor plan with a few dimensions would be a great help for advice. I would be prepared to spend extra, you will have this shed for the rest of your farming days
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It’s 3 spans wide and about 45 foot deep.
I will be spending extra, if it’s not going in this it’ll be going on something else that will see me out too. I would put a bit extra into it if I can see what extra I’m getting for it.
 
If the timbers are good that means the sheeting is good.
Unless I’m not understanding something, whenever the sheeting rots, the timbers don’t last pissing time.

In that case can you not just replace the uprights and get another 5 years out of the sheeting at least?

I’m just struggling to understand how the timbers are good.
 
Tekscrew said:
If the timbers are good that means the sheeting is good.
Unless I’m not understanding something, whenever the sheeting rots, the timbers don’t last pissing time.

In that case can you not just replace the uprights and get another 5 years out of the sheeting at least?

I’m just struggling to understand how the timbers are good.
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If it is an old shed it will have timber that will be nothing like the stuff used in the last 20 years.
I was patching an old round roof here just to prevent a storm taking it. It's leaking years and I couldn't get over how solid the timber was driving nails in it.
The shed is probably 80 years old
 
eddie86 said:
If it is an old shed it will have timber that will be nothing like the stuff used in the last 20 years.
I was patching an old round roof here just to prevent a storm taking it. It's leaking years and I couldn't get over how solid the timber was driving nails in it.
The shed is probably 80 years old
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At the same craic nursing a 40s/50s shed along. Very few leaks but it's really only the double of the sheet that's causing issues.
 
Round should be considered if the timbers etc are good.prop the shed and replace one pillar at a time maybe?
If they are only rotten at the bottom as is common a handy job is come up around with concrete.rawl bolting down steel and welding on patches also works.
If replacing is desired, what is the preferred have height at the front?.
Presume its a 20ft wide shed,2ft of fall would be enough
 
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