Plough Press

[Triaxle]

[MENTION=2850]Triaxle[/MENTION]

Here's another picture which should show a bit more of the attachment of the press arm to the plough.

http://www.forum4farming.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9132

Let me know if you need more pics of the arm etc, I can take some more if you like.

Thanks [MENTION=2524]CORK[/MENTION]. That's extremely helpfull. Doing lovely work there too Can the arm swing in a bit starting by a fence or ditch or moving along the road? Seems to stick out fair bit?

 

[Cork]

Thanks [MENTION=2524]CORK[/MENTION]. That's extremely helpfull. Doing lovely work there too Can the arm swing in a bit starting by a fence or ditch or moving along the road? Seems to stick out fair bit?

No problem, here to help!

The Plough arm is held out by a small toplink, just a case of pulling one small pin and it is then held back in tidy against the plough.

The small toplink can also be replaced by a ram to make life even easier. We actually have a brand KV new ram from somewhere but I never used as I didn't want more hoses which could potentially become fouled.

 

[ithastopay]

What about a trailed press with transport wheels? it would be easier to move about than using the 3 point linkage. Anybody using a press with a semi mounted plough?

 

[carrick]

I use rabe ploughn press but do not have hydraulic release,as you do cork, I simply stop ond lift the plough. What advantage would I have by fitting a ram.

 

[Cork]

What about a trailed press with transport wheels? it would be easier to move about than using the 3 point linkage. Anybody using a press with a semi mounted plough?

Never saw transport wheels, drawbar and wheels could get in the way of arm mechanism.
Yes, I've seen trailed presses on 7 furrow semi mounted ploughs in Germany.

 

[Cork]

I use rabe ploughn press but do not have hydraulic release,as you do cork, I simply stop ond lift the plough. What advantage would I have by fitting a ram.

Probably slightly easier to release at headland, no stop actually needed. That's about it really id say.

 

[ithastopay]

Just an idea i had in my head, if a trailed press could be used with our plough and the same press could be pulled by a handy tractor on the headlands? and moved from field to field, Maybe it would be too heavy pull though? something like a 3m farm force or simba, im also thinking id need the samaritans number on speed dial too as this could end up a mess.

 

[Cork]

Just an idea i had in my head, if a trailed press could be used with our plough and the same press could be pulled by a handy tractor on the headlands? and moved from field to field, Maybe it would be too heavy pull though? something like a 3m farm force or simba, im also thinking id need the samaritans number on speed dial too as this could end up a mess.

Now there's an interesting idea..

Could possibly work but could be a limit to the press width (weight). You don't really want it wider than the plough.

 

[guest 1]

[MENTION=2850]Triaxle[/MENTION]

Just attached a few pics of our press in action.

We are really delighted with the work it does, as dmaxman says - we also wouldn't like to use the plough without it.

It weighs approx. 750kg and is heavier than it looks. The design of the spaced wedge rings means that it firms at depth unlike a ring roller.

It is a very important job done without the cost of extra passes or wheelings.

Negatives are it has to be moved separately in our situation, can be annoying if it becomes detached before the headland (very very rare).

I have also been told that they can run away when ploughing down very steep hills but this has never happened to us yet. Perhaps if one is ploughing very fast which we don't.

From my experience, the work it does far far outweighs any hassles. At the end of the day, we are trying to grow the best crops we can and that cannot be achieved without some level of effort.

Andy Doyle at the Farmers Journal would be a good man to ask about them, he has always been a big fan of them.

Couple of quick questions, can't make it out from the pics.
What headstock have you got on the plough, and does the press put much of a strain on it?

 

[ithastopay]

Now there's an interesting idea..

Could possibly work but could be a limit to the press width (weight). You don't really want it wider than the plough.

7 x 18inc is 126inc, if it was to be hard on the plough, could it be pulled from the front linkage? Would a single axle DD ring press work?

 

[Cork]

Couple of quick questions, can't make it out from the pics.
What headstock have you got on the plough, and does the press put much of a strain on it?

I'm 99% sure its a 160 headstock.

It doesn't appear to put too much strain on it. I thought that it might put sideways strain on the plough but it doesn't pull it out of line at all. Everything runs straight once the plough is set up correctly as normal.

The press arm is attached to the plough frame just behind the head stock.

 

[john415]

7 x 18inc is 126inc, if it was to be hard on the plough, could it be pulled from the front linkage? Would a single axle DD ring press work?

yes i was thinking this.one of those single DD rings your could rig it to the arm of the plough and a trip system.

 

[Cork]

7 x 18inc is 126inc, if it was to be hard on the plough, could it be pulled from the front linkage? Would a single axle DD ring press work?

I don't think it would be too hard on the plough, surprisingly easy to pull.

Here's one on a 7 furrow...

http://www.google.ie/search?q=lemke...ns&ei=cP3WUqaAE4iJ7Abfy4BA&start=80&sa=N#i=10

A pair of rows keep it level for coupling up with the plough arm.

A single row would leave unpressed strips between the rings as rings need to be a certain distance apart to give penetration at depth.
Lemken do a single row of rings but it has a second row of a kind of cultivating rings on a steering drawbar. These are what I saw on the 7 furrow ploughs in Germany.

I'll look for a pic.

 

[guest 1]

I'm 99% sure its a 160 headstock.

It doesn't appear to put too much strain on it. I thought that it might put sideways strain on the plough but it doesn't pull it out of line at all. Everything runs straight once the plough is set up correctly as normal.

The press arm is attached to the plough frame just behind the head stock.

From memory, doesn't your man also run a press on the front of the sowing tractor? How does that work out, and does the land need any further cultivation between ploughing and sowing? And do you then roll post-sowing?

 

[Cork]

From memory, doesn't your man also run a press on the front of the sowing tractor? How does that work out, and does the land need any further cultivation between ploughing and sowing? And do you then roll post-sowing?

Yes he does sometimes although there's really no need where the plough had a press.
In most situations, there is absolutely no need for anything between the plough furrow press and drill. Exception is if the soil ploughs up cranky like toffee but I avoid this at all costs.

For oilseed rape we run the Catros disk ahead of the sower to maximize seed strike.

Once planted we ring roll where conditions allow.

Our contractor loves the pressed land as he has less wheel slip, tyres don't sink in and his power harrow tips last longer!

 

[guest 1]

I would imagine the front press on the sowing tractor is still the most satisfactory form of ballast though whether it is needed for cultivation or not? I presume it doesn't do any harm on already pressed ground anyway? I'm not a fan of a big weight block on the front of a sowing tractor, if used it's not very hard to see wheel tracks in the crop when it comes up no matter what the sowing conditions are like

 

[Cork]

I would imagine the front press on the sowing tractor is still the most satisfactory form of ballast though whether it is needed for cultivation or not? I presume it doesn't do any harm on already pressed ground anyway? I'm not a fan of a big weight block on the front of a sowing tractor, if used it's not very hard to see wheel tracks in the crop when it comes up no matter what the sowing conditions are like

I agree

 

[jm7799]

What about a trailed press with transport wheels? it would be easier to move about than using the 3 point linkage. Anybody using a press with a semi mounted plough?

yes will post a pic next week will be ploughing some black sand and sowing with spring barley , 8 furrow semi mounted overum and 3m press on 8530

 

[Danielk]

What are these presses like in heavy dampish soil. Would they do more harm than good?

I reckon a front press on the sowin tractor as it helps so much with the tyres compacting the ground. If a lad didn't have a press he would have a weight but when sowing the weight is still putting down the pressure on the front wheels. Where as if u had a press and it was running along the ground you wouldn't have that extra weight and when the press is in the air it acts as a weight for the heavy sower behind.


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[john415]

What are these presses like in heavy dampish soil. Would they do more harm than good?

I reckon a front press on the sowin tractor as it helps so much with the tyres compacting the ground. If a lad didn't have a press he would have a weight but when sowing the weight is still putting down the pressure on the front wheels. Where as if u had a press and it was running along the ground you wouldn't have that extra weight and when the press is in the air it acts as a weight for the heavy sower behind.


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Couldn't agree more I love my front press won't drill again without it.dont have to power harrow as deep to get tracks out front the front tyres.



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[ithastopay]

On well weathered ploughing, a front mounted press will do little work when spring sowing but id still choose to have a press over a weight block everyday, i think a press on the plough would be a great job id like to have one, the biggest drawback is moving the press from field to field for us as we travel a fair but to different farms. Im looking forward to seeing jm7799's pictures.

 

[jm7799]

daniel on heavier soil you a furrow press with sharper ring profile ,they cut the furrow up better , and does a cultivation , it leaves it nice and weathers well as the little ridges dry out and water runs down the profile and get a drying crust ,

plough presses sort the ploughmen from the seat warmers ,
and have a handy chain about 10ft long to pull press about in garings and headlands

 

[Cork]

daniel on heavier soil you a furrow press with sharper ring profile ,they cut the furrow up better , and does a cultivation , it leaves it nice and weathers well as the little ridges dry out and water runs down the profile and get a drying crust ,

plough presses sort the ploughmen from the seat warmers ,
and have a handy chain about 10ft long to pull press about in garings and headlands

Completely agree

The firmed soil encourages water to move up the profile to the surface by capillary action. Thus the pressed soil dries quicker than unpressed.

 

[SMID]

I agree

Quite agree work with a slightly different type of press Ritchie of Forfar 4 9.50x13 tyres steered by arm connected to inside of front wheel swivel the brackets fit the wt frame .Single hyd ram lifts and lowers. Front edge is a wt frame for my job it gives just enough consolidation between the tractor wheels duals with wider bands .600,sx2 just shy of 4m wide . less than half a mile to farthest away field so road work not rely a problem

 

[jm7799]

on plough on some loam . and drilling after maize