Politics in Ireland

indecisive sort

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I think Helen mc Entee is great. Not because she's a woman but she works so hard on so many cases. Seems to be a very nice person too

She's just OK, she will do what she is told and do what will make life easiest.

She is trying to push through updated "hate crime "legislation at the moment, not because she believes in it but because that's how the prevailing wind's are blowing, she knows it will make her very popular with the media too and that's always good for a politicians career prospects

The "hate crime " updating will make certain groups completely immune from prosecution and they're more or less pretty immune from the law as it is
 

avent

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She's just OK, she will do what she is told and do what will make life easiest.

She is trying to push through updated "hate crime "legislation at the moment, not because she believes in it but because that's how the prevailing wind's are blowing, she knows it will make her very popular with the media too and that's always good for a politicians career prospects

The "hate crime " updating will make certain groups completely immune from prosecution and they're more or less pretty immune from the law as it is
That's the whole problem with this country to much softness. Its not pc now to be tough on crime tough on welfare fraud, illegal immigration, white collar crime. If anyone speaks out their branded as a racist, but god forgive if your working or contributing to society and make a mistake on your tax returns or such like your nailed to the cross, the minority has the power over the majority. The media also has a lot to answer for in regard to this as well.
 

Arthur

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As voters we expect the people that we vote for to act in our best interests. The problem with most current politicians is that they only act in their own best interests.

Politics in this country has become a gravy train. Get in it and it is set up in such a way that even by just 1 term you will be set up for life
I recall Ivan Yates being interviewed one night and was asked the golden rule of politics, his reply, No1 look after your seat. I happened to be on a ferry to Rosslare about the time he was declared bankrupt and went for a walk outside , not many out but he was there and I happened to pass him so said hello and he didn't even reply.
 

Agri Power

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I recall Ivan Yates being interviewed one night and was asked the golden rule of politics, his reply, No1 look after your seat. I happened to be on a ferry to Rosslare about the time he was declared bankrupt and went for a walk outside , not many out but he was there and I happened to pass him so said hello and he didn't even reply.
His mind was miles away i suppose..
 

Titan 8820

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I recall Ivan Yates being interviewed one night and was asked the golden rule of politics, his reply, No1 look after your seat. I happened to be on a ferry to Rosslare about the time he was declared bankrupt and went for a walk outside , not many out but he was there and I happened to pass him so said hello and he didn't even reply.
Ah he just knew you werent in his constituency 😁
 

Bencroy

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Mate of mine has meet mairead mc guinesses on flights over and back to Brussels many times and one 2 occasions been in the same row.said she was very friendly and would always speak if they met passing in the airport
 

nashmach

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Most politicians are only in it for themselves, sure we had one hairy one down here who decided he wouldn't even have a local office or clinic to keep in touch with his constituents.

Now we have Verona Murphy and she has ruffled a right few feathers in the county and might have been no harm so others wouldn't rest on their laurels.. and knows her stuff on Brexit.

Unfortunately with the whip system too many in parties tow the line and so are gagged. And most of our nominations come from independents. One person who always stood out to me for being not afraid of speaking his own mind was John McGuinness of Kilkenny.
 

nashmach

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And the same old nonsense goes on local council level as well. A very simple (in my eyes) issue locally and it took Trojan work by a now retired councillor to get something started and then another to finish it.

I did approach a party councillor who fobbed me off and only came back to fob me off when I mentioned it to a close ally, you couldn't make it up but it will be remembered in the ballot box.....
 

JD 3140T

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98% of politicians , Run with the fox and hunt with the hound, For an Island the amount of politicians and their advisers salary and expenses is crazy and guess what they are looking for another increase .if this country was run like a business with professional people and if you mess up ur out no big pension. Its easy spending op money and have no concesques. But sure what would I know I'm only a farmer 🤠
 

indecisive sort

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98% of politicians , Run with the fox and hunt with the hound, For an Island the amount of politicians and their advisers salary and expenses is crazy and guess what they are looking for another increase .if this country was run like a business with professional people and if you mess up ur out no big pension. Its easy spending op money and have no concesques. But sure what would I know I'm only a farmer 🤠

our PR system is a ball5 of a job , it means every constituency TD is constantly looking over their shoulder to see which local populist issue is drawing most attention , as such they prioritise small stuff ahead of important national issue , thats not to say local issues are unimportant but councellors should be dealing with those , not TD,s

first past the post is better
 

Burdizzo

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our PR system is a ball5 of a job , it means every constituency TD is constantly looking over their shoulder to see which local populist issue is drawing most attention , as such they prioritise small stuff ahead of important national issue , thats not to say local issues are unimportant but councellors should be dealing with those , not TD,s

first past the post is better
The UK has first past the post - hardly better. Most would say it's worse
 
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