Spherical ball bearing housing/collar/whatever

[mfield]

Anyone know what the broken collar in the pictures is called? It's split in one place to allow it to expand and take the spherical bearing (also in the pics). I've not had any luck googling. The whole lot then goes into a straight bore.

 

[Stock]

Any pix ?..............................

 

[mfield]

Any pix ?..............................

They're uploaded now. Phone died during the first attempt

 

[Stock]

Plumber block........ .......

 

[headcase]

They're uploaded now. Phone died during the first attempt

measure the shaft diameter and the mounting bolt pattern

 

[mfield]

measure the shaft diameter and the mounting bolt pattern

It's not a block I'm looking for. It's the piece that looks a bit like an outer race in the second 2 pictures. The actual outer race of the spherical bearing (one of these: https://www.kugellager-express.de/radial-insert-ball-bearing-cs207-2rs-shaft-35-mm) sits into it.

 

[Stock]

The spherical collar? What is it on?
Give us as much info as you can....................................

 

[headcase]

It's not a block I'm looking for. It's the piece that looks a bit like an outer race in the second 2 pictures. The actual outer race of the spherical bearing (one of these: https://www.kugellager-express.de/radial-insert-ball-bearing-cs207-2rs-shaft-35-mm) sits into it.

yes but you shouldnt need an adapter between bearing and block

 

[mfield]

It's on a Massey Powerflow header. Rear belt roller bearing. It doesn't sit in a generic block but a carrier that bolts to the header floor. I was hoping that the "adapter" is a generic part but it's looking doubtful now....

 

[headcase]

measure the shaft diameter and the mounting bolt pattern

It's on a Massey Powerflow header. Rear belt roller bearing. It doesn't sit in a generic block but a carrier that bolts to the header floor. I was hoping that the "adapter" is a generic part but it's looking doubtful now....

^^

 

[mfield]

^^

This is the carrier. It definitely stops being generic after the adaptor ring.

 

[headcase]

Whats the model number?ill see if i can log in to agco parts and have a root abiut

 

[mfield]

Whats the model number?ill see if i can log in to agco parts and have a root abiut

Thanks but I've had a look already and you can get the bearing and collar thingy together but not separately. I was hoping the collar was standard, in which case I'd either have identified it by googling or someone on here would have taken one look at it and said "That's a ...".

Feck.

My fault for hammering it out instead of pressing it.

 

[towbar]

That collar is just the spherical bearing collar I don’t think you can buy them seperate but the whole lot shouldn’t be too dear?

 

[headcase]

This is the carrier. It definitely stops being generic after the adaptor ring.

What size is the hole?and is it straight sided or curved

 

[mfield]

That collar is just the spherical bearing collar I don’t think you can buy them seperate but the whole lot shouldn’t be too dear?

That's exactly what I was thinking until I went looking and couldn't find them together or separate.

 

[mfield]

What size is the hole?and is it straight sided or curved

I'll have a measure later. Straight sides.

 

[headcase]

I'll have a measure later. Straight sides.

Bound to be a slight odd size🤦‍♂️

 

[towbar]

Ah it’s different than I thought yours in a bearing in a spherical collar rather than a plain spherical bearing

 

[MF30]

I don't think Massey combines had any part that was similar to anything else, and they definitely know how to charge for each "specialist" part.

 

[mfield]

Ah it’s different than I thought yours in a bearing in a spherical collar rather than a plain spherical bearing

Yep

The hole is 80mm.
This is the whole lot assembled:


This is one of the replacement bearings before it goes into the collar.

 

[mfield]

I figured I'd better do bearing number 3 so I'd know whether I needed 2 collar thingies or just one. Turns our someone got there before me and fitted a larger wider straight bearing, with the same internal diameter, in place of the smaller spherical bearing and the collar. The shaft was modified to take the slightly wider bearing by welding a washer to it. It's not a solution I'm up for - I recon every bit of the limited capacity for alignment afforded by the spherical setup is necessary to avoid metal fatigue and wear.


Trip to the bearing shop today confirmed that the collar is a manufacturer part rather than something off the shelf.

So I need 2 of these:

Agco part no D41716300 if anyone has one (or two) lying around.

 

[headcase]

I figured I'd better do bearing number 3 so I'd know whether I needed 2 collar thingies or just one. Turns our someone got there before me and fitted a larger wider straight bearing, with the same internal diameter, in place of the smaller spherical bearing and the collar. The shaft was modified to take the slightly wider bearing by welding a washer to it. It's not a solution I'm up for - I recon every bit of the limited capacity for alignment afforded by the spherical setup is necessary to avoid metal fatigue and wear.
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Trip to the bearing shop today confirmed that the collar is a manufacturer part rather than something off the shelf.

So I need 2 of these:

Agco part no D41716300 if anyone has one (or two) lying around.

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[headcase]

better part number for you MFD41716300

 

[headcase]

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