Spring oats

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  1. nashmach

    nashmach Well-Known Member

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    In contrast the oats on the poorest tillage field here are bombing along but the N from last Saturday is not washed in:scratchhead:

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    PGR this week.
     
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    It’s the same here, oats bombing it too (sown first days of April which in reality is late for oats so it’s trying to make up time).

    Most barley crops around here have had some kind of nip from sprays. All the more so if axial and proline were mixed. Weed sprays did it too.
     
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    Yep this was sown on the first Friday in April, I'm not sorry to see it bombing as it needs to be cut first to get to SB below it.

    It is staying quite clean too thus far (famous last words)
     
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    Mine got moddus on Friday before the rain, the wind has them well leaned!
    Me thinks I'll be back with more pgr soon.
    Given the dry l was a bit cautious until l saw what rain came. DSC_0396.JPG
     
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    By comparison this is them being sprayed 24 hours earlier on Friday.
    Shocking what a drink can do!! DSC_0393.JPG
     
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    Plenty of salt burning here on my oats, but as you can see it is quite an exposed field.

    I must say though the rain has really woken it up and both of us are delighted with it. 20200526_195039.jpg

    It will get more shortened and disease spray in the next few days.

    For some reason it is the most even crop in the whole farm.
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    Husky oats are doing well but could do with rain. Very little rain here and not much for the next week if the forecast is correct
     

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    Oats down April 8th, rented ground and low fertility. Not ploughed in 100 years. First time growing oats and quite happy with it.
     
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    Has anyone any experience with Isabelle oats?
    Very leafy, a bit scarey looking!
    I've Aspen beside them that look more normal.
     
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    I have winter sown Isabel, as you say very leafy and lush I was worried about it earlier in case it turned out a wet year. It didn't end up much taller than the Husky in the end, but as you say frighteningly strong and leafy looking.
    I will probably have to give up on Husky here as the mildew is getting to Barra levels in it this year.
     
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    First year with Isabel....so lush and green.....scary looking stuff!!!!
     
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    It sure is, mine got. 175 moddus 8 days ago.
    It doesn't appear to have had much effect, l was back this morning with canopy!
     
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    Yes, Isabel is such a different looking plant than what we’ve been used to.

    It’s lodging resistance should be good and it’s resistance to brackling (if God forbid we get a broken harvest) is like nothing I’ve ever seen in an oat.

    The normal pgr routine here is 1L ccc at Gs 30-31 followed by 1L ccc plus 0.2 Moddus at Gs 32. Isabel is absolutely bombing it in the plots here.
     
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    I have it as well and as you said it looks scary especially when you see it from the tractor. When you walk through it it doesn’t seem as heavy. I did a rough measurement on a few of the leaves and they were more than 15” long.
     
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    I used ccc with Moddus on WB last year - it certainly worked!
    How does the ccc seem to help at gs 32? That's around 2nd node showing?
     
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    Unlike wheat, the main shortener on Oats has to aim at or after 2nd node, the distance between 1st and 2nd node on Oats is very small, so any shortener used at or before GS31 will have very little shortening effect.
     
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    Its been tricky this year, l just got them at 32 last week, then the rain and heat came and blasted them on. The moddus had trouble holding them!
    I was a bit cautious with rates at that point doubting if the rain would have appeared last weekend.
     
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    Moddus isn't really a good shortener, it's aim is to thicken the cell wall of the stem more so than shorten like CeCeCe or even more so Terpal (in wheat or barley), I never use Moddus without CeCeCe to do a bit of proper shortening, like @CORK said above, 1-1.5LCeCeCe along with 0.15-0.3L Moddus depending on how much you want to hit the plant.
    I am not trying to run down Moddus, it just works in a different way to stop lodging.
     
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    Also, as far as I know, Moddus stays active in the plant for longer than CCC.
     
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    All I can say is mine got 1l of CCC two weeks ago and the same again with 0.2 of Optimus and I hope that does the trick on it.

    It is already quite tall and up to the half shafts of the tractor....

    I'm hoping it won't end up like my WO last year which were under my armpit in the end. How does SO usually compare to WO?

    I'm thinking I'm going to have the change the booms on the sprayer at this stage to get the headspray on them :sweat::sweat::censored:
     
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    Straw will be valuable, so no bother you.
    That sounds like a good PGR program.
     
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    Fair point, I've had enquiries already for it :yes:
     
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    A spring is really after coming into the Isabel in the past week. The second pgr was ccc + Moddus. Very thick stem walls.

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    Thanks be to God, I've the oats beside my brutal barley

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    A little under waist high
     
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    And the obligatory oats photos which is nicely moving along. 20200607_181322.jpg

    Spot the drains above... 20200607_183040.jpg
     
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