Masseyrk662
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Sown 25th of September. Was in barley for 3 years. I still get the nightmares
Unlikely, I’ll try spray it if the weather dries up and I’ll see after that but I wouldn’t think so.Will you clip that off before stock are housed do you think?
Close the gate till February 👍
And no I haven't lost the plot. My grandfather passed away in the early 90s was the last time sheep grazed our land. Bloody barley took off after sowing the grass seed so asked a neighbor for a lend of some sheep see could we graze the barley down so it doesn't kill the grass.
The deutz cut that field. No didn't plough. It weird, no grain visible on the ground but it grew like hell. Our biggest worry was the barely would die off or fall over and smother the grass. Hopefully after a bit of a graze be enough to let the grass on.Them Lexions must be throwing out a lot of grain
I'm assuming you did not plough that post harvest so any bits of grain would have grown.
I would not have been concerned, the grass will out compete it.
The deutz cut that field. No didn't plough. It weird, no grain visible on the ground but it grew like hell. Our biggest worry was the barely would die off or fall over and smother the grass. Hopefully after a bit of a graze be enough to let the grass on.
the grass was too soft to let calfs in and then u got too wet. Ya hopefully so nowIf the ground is dry enough for the woolies, it will help the grass tiler nicely anyway
Thanks for the reply. I'm not sure whether to kill off the rushes and just get some sheep in to eat it down bare rather then Reseed.I'd drain and then burn off. You might be glad of the bit of grip that the current grass will give.
Do not spare the lime. Ploughing vs not depends on how rough it is post draining.
You are talking 6 weeks or so of good growing conditions post sowing before grazing. Just be aware if you leave it late like you say, a wet autumn will make it difficult to get back on it.
In my eyes if mortone is applied properly and timed correctly it will kill the rushes. Will need to do them every few years probably but the bull will be gone.Thanks for the reply. I'm not sure whether to kill off the rushes and just get some sheep in to eat it down bare rather then Reseed.
Will think about drain it first, kill rushes and apply lime to see how that effects it. If all good then reseeding in a year or two might be the best plan. Can old grass be rejuvenated without a Reseed for grazing?
As you say hard tell without pics or knowing the land type etc.Bought a parcel of land just over a year ago and getting around to sorting it out. Land was long term rented so probably wasn't the best cared for.
There are a few fields that need a bit of drains in them and heavy crop of rushes wiped.
Should I burn the fields off, drain and then reseed or is there another order of doing it that would work better? Very heavy thatch on the ground.
Could I get away without ploughing? Hard to say I know without photos, but what generally is the approach to take? I'm assuming that pH and the p and k needs looked at too.
How long after reseeding would it be until I could put cattle on? Would be thinking that doing the work towards end of summer might be best as I'd get at least a bit of the grazing season from it - wise thought?
Thanks for the reply. I'm not sure whether to kill off the rushes and just get some sheep in to eat it down bare rather then Reseed.
Will think about drain it first, kill rushes and apply lime to see how that effects it. If all good then reseeding in a year or two might be the best plan. Can old grass be rejuvenated without a Reseed for grazing?
In my eyes if mortone is applied properly and timed correctly it will kill the rushes. Will need to do them every few years probably but the bull will be gone.
Could you mulch them and spray regrowth? Sheep do a great job of cleaning a place. Maybe overseed then to rejuvenate?
Thanks for all advice. Is told that with the fresh rushes 1 - 2 years old that cutting would thicken them and the best approach would be to hit them hard with mcpa and they should be gone with a year or two.
Makes sense to get the soil fertility right before considering a reseed. Might look into getting in some ewe lambs to graze the field hard and then sort out the drains. Spray rushes and get the soil pH analysed before spreading some lime.
I know that bulk lime is better than gran lime but I'm near houses and don't want hassle. Is there much in it? Are the boom spreaders for bulk lime good at keeping the dust down?
Nearby contractor spreads liquid lime with each 1000 gallons containing 2 tonnes of lime.
At the best of times yes. Do over 400 acres here a year and very very little is ploughed. All disced and powerharrowed.I didn't realise until recently that people reseed without ploughing..... on typical land is there much of a difference in the long term?
I'm a part time farmer, with little enough time for going around ten acres picking stones and I'm told that by reseeding without ploughing I'd be spared all that. Basically I'm looking to reseed with little enough input from me (getting the contractor to do as much as possible). Is that a reasonable assumption that I'd get it sprayed off, contractor comes in and reseeds and 6 weeks later (appropriate conditions allowing) I should have a decent paddock?