There was a guy on the old BFF that modified a jf900 and then 1100 after fairly cheaply with a good 200hp in front of it and was clearing raked 25fts in a three cut system. He was clearing a lot more than 35 acres a day, our resident new Holland man might remember more. Tagging doesn't seem to be working for me for some reason
I see a reasonable looking mex 6 in Kelly's Abbeyleix is any has an itch to scratch.
I think the notion is medium to long term.Go way and buy a few pallet of plastic between them.
Cheapest way out
Nicest harvester here was a pottinger mex6 bought new in the early 90s. Easy enough maintain but would need a metal detector. Never tried 20 fts but you’d need a very tidy swart I’d say.
Bales are an expensive way of making silage in heavy cuts, and the price of plastic is only going to go one way, I wouldn't disagree with them there.Go way and buy a few pallet of plastic between them.
Cheapest way out
farmers weekly did a whole thing on trailed foragers few weeks ago. lely has stopped making new foragers. kongskilde are still making them from what was mentionedWhat's the story with parts for all these yokes going forward? To cut a long story short JF are now owned by CNH and what was Mengele is now owned by AGCO, have both discontinued the trailed harvesters or are new ones still available?
Kongskilde and Elho are the only European brands still making them,What's the story with parts for all these yokes going forward? To cut a long story short JF are now owned by CNH and what was Mengele is now owned by AGCO, have both discontinued the trailed harvesters or are new ones still available?
If they bought their own spfh, they don't have to go any faster than they want.I'd say about 200 altogether for first cut and maybe 130 or 140 for 2nd cut. They're talking about a trailed harvester because the theory is all their existing gear would handle the output nice and steady, they wouldn't be able to handle the capacity of a self propelled without further upgrades elsewhere along the line. The other part of the discussion was cost, how much per acre to charge for the harvester, trailers, loader on their own.
Would agree on the trailer lads. I struggled when I went drawing silage beside one. Especially at the corners of the headlands. Got lucky that my front tyre only made contact with the forager man's front tyres a few timesIf they bought their own spfh, they don't have to go any faster than they want.
Saw an add for a 1990 sh40N with supposedly less than 500 acres on her recently. Buggered if I could find it now, but that would be some buy!
Just under £10k.
One small matter to consider is quality of trailer drivers with a trailed, you need to be in close and VERY steady, not like a spfh that can blow to a trailer half a field away!
The same is being done around here. Believe the plan this year is to blow out the cobwebs on the jf1100. They used to only do 10ft swaths but I believe that was for the bennefit of the taarup that also used to be used along side it but I don't suspect that it will be in use this time round so might be possible to do 20ft swaths. It's meant to be the best job but the biggest challenge here is to get help, need around 6 here the day of lifting it, 2 on the pit, one on the harvester and 3 drawing. The 75 or the 820 are usually on the harvester, the new jcb 420 will probably replace the 300 on the pit with the 8400 rolling and anything else will be put drawing. It's the best job if you can do it yourself then you're not waiting around for contractors and can lift it and knock it whenever you're ready.A bit of discussion for the weekend, came up in conversation during the week. A couple of famers, neighbours, making baled silage and discussing the price of plastic "it's getting very dear", reckoned they could put a trailed outfit together between them to do their own. They'd have a couple of good trailers, mowers and rakes, a fella with a good loader, all they're short is a harvester. Biggest tractor is probably about 180hp, what kind of harvester would you put behind it and what kind of output would you expect on reasonably short draws, would you pick 10ft or 20ft rows? And what would each branch of the enterprise be worth, as in what would the breakdown be per acre for the harvester, the trailers, and the loader? I haven't a notion about any of it, I never had anything to do with a pit silage outfit, I think I've drawn 4 loads of grass in my life. Discuss.
I think the whole point of the idea was a trailed harvester is the only outlay that would be required, whereas a self propelled is another machine to service and maintain etc. and would likely have big acres gone through it at the kind of money they're thinking about, I would imagine you would buy a very fresh/reconditioned trailed machine for the price of a worn out SP.If they bought their own spfh, they don't have to go any faster than they want.
Us and the neighbours used to do our own but wasn't the lack of men around but it was a lottery if 1 of the 2 jaguars would finish the job. What we do now is do our own mowing and draw the silage ourselves and let the contractor deal with the forager and pit seeming as we already have the mowers and trailers. Gets done in a few hours here and the contractors stay behind to help with the pits. We tend to do at least 2 of the 3 farms on the same dayThe same is being done around here. Believe the plan this year is to blow out the cobwebs on the jf1100. They used to only do 10ft swaths but I believe that was for the bennefit of the taarup that also used to be used along side it but I don't suspect that it will be in use this time round so might be possible to do 20ft swaths. It's meant to be the best job but the biggest challenge here is to get help, need around 6 here the day of lifting it, 2 on the pit, one on the harvester and 3 drawing. The 75 or the 820 are usually on the harvester, the new jcb 420 will probably replace the 300 on the pit with the 8400 rolling and anything else will be put drawing. It's the best job if you can do it yourself then you're not waiting around for contractors and can lift it and knock it whenever you're ready.
We used to do that with getting the loan of farleys bros loader and harvester and dealing with the rest ourselves but would have to wait around till the harvester was at nothing so the boss is planning on busting out the jf this year.Us and the neighbours used to do our own but wasn't the lack of men around but it was a lottery if 1 of the 2 jaguars would finish the job. What we do now is do our own mowing and draw the silage ourselves and let the contractor deal with the forager and pit seeming as we already have the mowers and trailers. Gets done in a few hours here and the contractors stay behind to help with the pits. We tend to do at least 2 of the 3 farms on the same day
This would be pretty common in the UK where the contractor would only chop and pit, but would supply the trailers for the farmer to use on his own tractors.Us and the neighbours used to do our own but wasn't the lack of men around but it was a lottery if 1 of the 2 jaguars would finish the job. What we do now is do our own mowing and draw the silage ourselves and let the contractor deal with the forager and pit seeming as we already have the mowers and trailers. Gets done in a few hours here and the contractors stay behind to help with the pits. We tend to do at least 2 of the 3 farms on the same day