Winter barley 2026

[Masseyrk662]

The mood is bad, hopefully I read back on this next year and it’s better. Here we go anyway, 2500 gallons of digestate going onto stubbles, 2 tankers running both with auto steer so application is very accurate, there is a big difference in the trailing shoe and dribble bar as can be seen

 

[Becauka]

Anyone going to sow Cassia?
It didn't do well this year.

 

[norm]

Anyone going to sow Cassia?
It didn't do well this year.

ya im going to chance it again.Didnt do as well as it looked but did as well as most other wb to be fair.

 

[Masseyrk662]

anxious to get seed here i would sow the best of our ground this weekend and hope the wetter ground dried out by end of next week. some ground is already gone too wet but if it got next week dry it could come right again. Last year was the first year there was oppertunity to sow after the 15th of october around here so it's like being the first of october here today in the west

 

[Ags11]

We had 40mm up here on Sunday/Monday, then another 20 a few days ago.
It does give it good next week and in to the following, if it drys up, it’ll be a perfect time for sowing.
I’d rather have it bad now than the end of the month and October.

 

[Masseyrk662]

We had 40mm up here on Sunday/Monday, then another 20 a few days ago.
It does give it good next week and in to the following, if it drys up, it’ll be a perfect time for sowing.
I’d rather have it bad now than the end of the month and October.

The place is wet here but my thinking now is to start ploughing the good ground and hopefully by time all good ground is done the wet ground will be dry enough to sow, and then I like the wet ground to get at least a week dry after to germinate seeds. Trying to outlaw spring crops here altogether bar beans so it’s an awful struggle, I was told today that it would be next wed or Thursday before we have seed which is far from ideal

 

[Ags11]

The place is wet here but my thinking now is to start ploughing the good ground and hopefully by time all good ground is done the wet ground will be dry enough to sow, and then I like the wet ground to get at least a week dry after to germinate seeds. Trying to outlaw spring crops here altogether bar beans so it’s an awful struggle, I was told today that it would be next wed or Thursday before we have seed which is far from ideal

Between rain or wind most days, l’m only thinking of getting ground sprayed off!
I’d disced chopped oat straw, with the wind we got in August there was plenty on the ground- so there’s a good chit - I’ve had worse emergence in a drilled crop 😅

Still gives a bit of rain here on Saturday, we could do with a dry week before ploughing…with margins tight, I’m not going through a gate unless it’s in decent shape.
There’s no winter crop going in unless it’s in good rotation slot either!

 

[Ags11]

Not to mention there’s grass still to be mowed that was destined for ww and wb, my financial head is telling me to leave it as is!

 

[JamesK]

Is Integral bydv tolerant?

 

[Crops]

Is Integral bydv tolerant?

Yes

 

[Masseyrk662]

aphid numbers were very high last autumn, were very easy find, I put up a video on twitter of a massive amount of BYDV in my barley on integral in spring as i used no aphicide at all on it. It all averaged 4T, it is definitely tolerant

 

[Mid cork]

Is Integral a bit susceptible to net blotch. That’s what I heard lately, must say I didn’t notice it and it yielded quite well here.

 

[JamesK]

Yes

Is there any benefit in treating tolerant varieties with an aphicide? Any tests done on this by teagasc does anyone know? After the infection in the spring crop with treatment you would question the efficiacy of the aphicide.

 

[Meath]

How early could you go with integral?

 

[JamesK]

I know this has been discussed before, but I have forgot what the consensus was, how short a time span would you go with ploughing after burning off?

 

[JamesK]

How early could you go with integral?

I sowed Joyau before, which is also bydv tolerant, last week in September and it did every bit as good as non tolerant variety sown 2nd week of October same year, didn't get an aphicide out on either.

 

[Masseyrk662]

I’d happily sow now if I had it, I was told today hopefully there’s a lorry coming Monday from cork

 

[Crops]

I’d happily sow now if I had it, I was told today hopefully there’s a lorry coming Monday from cork

I’ll give it my blessing before it leaves

 

[Mynamesnotdave]

Is there any benefit in treating tolerant varieties with an aphicide? Any tests done on this by teagasc does anyone know? After the infection in the spring crop with treatment you would question the efficiacy of the aphicide.

I think that was due to the increased level of sunshine reducing the efficacy of the chemical involved.

 

[JamesK]

Just burning off here today, should have done it a couple of weeks ago. It is very wet in patches, might have to have a rethink on some parts.

 

[Crops]

Is Integral a bit susceptible to net blotch. That’s what I heard lately, must say I didn’t notice it and it yielded quite well here.

Yes, it certainly picked up more this year than previous years. Straightforward to prevent if you know about it. Pyraclostrobin is excellent on it.

 

[Crops]

Is there any benefit in treating tolerant varieties with an aphicide? Any tests done on this by teagasc does anyone know? After the infection in the spring crop with treatment you would question the efficiacy of the aphicide.

Yes, my view is that there is a benefit. If a tolerant variety gets bydv, the yield impact is vastly less than if it wasn’t a tolerant variety.
I would spray it if it were mine.

 

[Crops]

How early could you go with integral?

If you’re in Meath, and it’s after a break crop I’d happily sow it next week. I’ll sow here after beans on the 1st October if weather permits.
However, if it’s after wheat or barley, I’d delay a couple of weeks if possible.
Latitude can help for sure but it’s more cost.

 

[Crops]

Thinking more about the above and while realising that not every field can be following a break crop, we know that getting an autumn crop planted early can be a great way of avoiding muck and poor establishment.

If there is one cause of poor yields in my farming experience that was the most common, it would be crop establishment.
If you can come out of winter with a full field, you have yield potential.

Sowing wheat early has the challenge of more Septoria and BYDV.

Sowing a BYDV tolerant variety early after a break crop should dodge the dual bullets of Take-All and BYDV.
Yes, there can be more foliar disease pressure but thankfully we can control these in barley.

Last year, I planted the winter barley plots on the 4th October following beans. This would be ten days before “traditional optimum” in this region.
It received 150 units of N and averaged 4.5tn/acre.
Certain new (2 row!) BYDV varieties in the trial had plot yields of 5tn/acre.

It would make you think….

 

[Masseyrk662]

With merchants here telling us if we grow oats they can’t take it next harvest it’s really fecking up good rotations 😬