Winter Barley 2020

Discussion in 'Tillage' started by Hardysplicer, Sep 7, 2019.

  1. Hardysplicer

    Hardysplicer Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2015
    Messages:
    1,441
    What varieties are people sowing
    I’m thinking KWS Kosmos & JB Valerie
     
  2. CORK

    CORK Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2011
    Messages:
    11,692
    Location:
    East Cork, Ireland
    Planning to sow Valerie here
     
  3. MF30

    MF30 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 18, 2014
    Messages:
    2,308
    Location:
    Wexford
    Has Valerie any strengths over Infinity or Carneval? I understand different varieties can better suit different soils and different parts of the country but I'm open to your suggestions. Still toying whether to go WW or WB but the WW costings seem to take a lot of profit from the potential high yield. WB on high ground might be an option for me this autumn.
     
    Gnusmas likes this.
  4. Hardysplicer

    Hardysplicer Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2015
    Messages:
    1,441
    Quality of cassia
    Higher yields
    Great to stand
    Suit my laid back approach to nitrogen
     
  5. CORK

    CORK Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2011
    Messages:
    11,692
    Location:
    East Cork, Ireland
    Valerie appeals to me because it’s an improvement in straw strength (lodging and brackling) while being a few percent better yielding than Cassia and Infinity.
    It should have a kph equal to if not even slightly better than Cassia.
    It’s a bit earlier to ripen too.
    Only weakness I can see is Ramularia but plenty Bravo should sort that. Strob from BASF coming in 2021 is very very good on Ramularia.
    Looking over the past 3 years, Valerie has been very consistent in yield (not 110% in one year and 95% the next).

    We have a few fields of winter barley to grow which will be an entry for WOSR in 2020, a couple of new WOSR varieties coming for next year which I have my eye on.
     
    nashmach, KTM Farmer and MF30 like this.
  6. MF30

    MF30 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 18, 2014
    Messages:
    2,308
    Location:
    Wexford
    I had Cassia for a few years and although it was reliable it never had an impressive grain yield, tons of straw alright.
     
    CORK likes this.
  7. MF30

    MF30 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 18, 2014
    Messages:
    2,308
    Location:
    Wexford
    Thanks, the positives seem good, no harm doing a bit of research in advance. Much appreciated Cork.
     
    CORK likes this.
  8. Ags11

    Ags11 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 23, 2017
    Messages:
    198
    I've been trying to to source valerie up here. Can't get any so far. Apparently the seed crops were in Scotland and didn't come up to scratch.
     
  9. CORK

    CORK Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2011
    Messages:
    11,692
    Location:
    East Cork, Ireland
    Your merchant could probably get some in the Rep of Ireland. We actually exported some Valerie to Scotland as the breeder was short.
     
    Ags11 likes this.
  10. john415

    john415 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 11, 2011
    Messages:
    4,077
    Location:
    wexford
    you will do what george tells ya too do.
     
    Louis mc likes this.
  11. Hardysplicer

    Hardysplicer Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2015
    Messages:
    1,441
    If you’d listen to him you’d be right
     
  12. KTM Farmer

    KTM Farmer Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 1, 2017
    Messages:
    266
    Location:
    Cork
    Is there much Valarie available this year @CORK ?
     
  13. CORK

    CORK Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2011
    Messages:
    11,692
    Location:
    East Cork, Ireland
    A reasonable bit of it. We put out a good bit for seed and it yielded well. Probably no harm to book it with your merchant all the same.
     
  14. KTM Farmer

    KTM Farmer Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 1, 2017
    Messages:
    266
    Location:
    Cork
    Thanks, might give it a try.
     
    CORK likes this.
  15. john415

    john415 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 11, 2011
    Messages:
    4,077
    Location:
    wexford
    mr worldwide
     
  16. mixedbag

    mixedbag Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 11, 2013
    Messages:
    916
    Location:
    Cork
    Have you a rough 1000 grain weight for it?
     
  17. CORK

    CORK Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2011
    Messages:
    11,692
    Location:
    East Cork, Ireland
    I’ll get back to you on it if that’s ok?
     
    mixedbag likes this.
  18. no name

    no name Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2013
    Messages:
    211
    Location:
    carlow
    Revesol? There was hopes of having it next year. Just wondering with regards winter wheat only the weather played ball this year septoria was uncontrollable. Planning what to sow after break crops wheat is gone high risk but nead a spread of crops. Can't grow all winter Barley either
     
  19. CORK

    CORK Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2011
    Messages:
    11,692
    Location:
    East Cork, Ireland
    No, you’re right - Revysol is coming in 2020. The strob is the year after
     
    nashmach, no name and Mid cork like this.
  20. nashmach

    nashmach Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2010
    Messages:
    41,296
    Location:
    Wexford, Ireland
    FYI folks, just moving some of the posts from the 2019 thread to a new 2020 thread, as they are more relevant here.

    If I missed any, let me know :smile:
     
    CORK likes this.
  21. Rebelman

    Rebelman Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2014
    Messages:
    262
    Are the recommended lists out yet?
     
  22. CORK

    CORK Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2011
    Messages:
    11,692
    Location:
    East Cork, Ireland
    Not yet, this coming week I expect
     
    Rebelman likes this.
  23. CORK

    CORK Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2011
    Messages:
    11,692
    Location:
    East Cork, Ireland
    Approximately 59-60g for Valerie based on what I’ve seen so far.
     
    Sheebadog and mixedbag like this.
  24. Blackwater boy

    Blackwater boy Moderator

    Joined:
    Sep 24, 2013
    Messages:
    7,871
    Location:
    West waterford
    Jaysus like Coconuts. That’s a 14 stone an acre job for mid/late October.
     
    Sheebadog and CORK like this.
  25. mixedbag

    mixedbag Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 11, 2013
    Messages:
    916
    Location:
    Cork
    Thanks, must be serious grain!
     
    CORK likes this.

Share This Page