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18 fodder and 23 sugar?18 and 23
18 fodder and 23 sugar?18 and 23
Yes18 fodder and 23 sugar?
I haven't a clue but all I do know is some varieties are feed only and not used at all for malting. In my case I had planet barley this year and had a range of proteins from 8.6-11.5%, all the same treatments just different fields and soil types. @CORK may know more on this.is modern day barley in the same league as barley from say 20 years ago, all the barley being bred now is for malting only and is low in protein where
as years ago feed barley was being developed in its own right
I haven't a clue but all I do know is some varieties are feed only and not used at all for malting. In my case I had planet barley this year and had a range of proteins from 8.6-11.5%, all the same treatments just different fields and soil types. @CORK may know more on this.
It’s wet enough stuff so safe to feed, what else is he feeding to these animals?The cousin got this load of stuff delivered out from the distillery in tullamore today. I think it's a product like brewers grains. It's supposed to be around 18% DM and around 22% protein. What's the best way of starting to feed this to finishing cattle?
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It’s wet enough stuff so safe to feed, what else is he feeding to these animals?
It it not a touch high pr% for a finishing ration?
The cousin got this load of stuff delivered out from the distillery in tullamore today. I think it's a product like brewers grains. It's supposed to be around 18% DM and around 22% protein. What's the best way of starting to feed this to finishing cattle?
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Some more information here, Peter:
http://www.specialistnutrition.ie/products/brewers-grain
Seems to be safe enough to horse it into them.
Same story here with by products. 90 odd miles from the nearest supply. Easy enough to get in summer when everyone's cattle are out. Winter however and they have their pick within 20 miles.I got a couple of attic loads of brewers grains from the Smithwicks brewery in Kilkenny one winter the guts of 20 years ago. I thought it super stuff. If memory serves , I think £23 a ton . Fed it to weanlings and year and a halves , more as a silage stretcher.
At that time , you contacted the hauler , and if you were in with him , you got it. Then it change to a crowd took over the distribution of it , and a small lad like me was gone. KW Systems ?? Might be wrong on that .
Would brewers grains and the byproduct from distilling be similar ?
Same story here with by products. 90 odd miles from the nearest supply. Easy enough to get in summer when everyone's cattle are out. Winter however and they have their pick within 20 miles.
A group I'm with visited a farm that was getting vegetables and biscuits for next to nothing within 5 miles of the plants.
pit it when you can get itSame story here with by products. 90 odd miles from the nearest supply. Easy enough to get in summer when everyone's cattle are out. Winter however and they have their pick within 20 miles.
A group I'm with visited a farm that was getting vegetables and biscuits for next to nothing within 5 miles of the plants.
That’s shite talk, if you have a store with 5000 tonnes in it how do you do that? I’ve plenty experience and that does not happen.I heard a.long time ago that Miller's send the best quality grain to pig and poultry farms as they notice drops in performance instantly.
Dairy rations next for similar reasons.
Cattle and sheep get what's left.
I nearly always buy a 3 way mix rather than a pre made ration
Distillers barley soya hulls or similar
You send the truck out to a farm that has 700 tonnes of good quality Lumos or Doubleshot particularly in a year like 2008 or 2012 . When the Dairy men start feeding they send in a Hitachi into a store that was filled the year before with Shite that was bought cheap on the world market. More Shite will hit the fan when the consumer realizes that the cows are being fed genetically modified corn because it’s €30 cheaper. Do not tie my arm behind my back and expect me to compete. If it was €30 dearer you would not be buying it . I have no issue with genetic modification or gene splicing as long as it is a level pitch .That’s shite talk, if you have a store with 5000 tonnes in it how do you do that? I’ve plenty experience and that does not happen.
Some more information here, Peter:
http://www.specialistnutrition.ie/products/brewers-grain
Seems to be safe enough to horse it into them.
I got a couple of attic loads of brewers grains from the Smithwicks brewery in Kilkenny one winter the guts of 20 years ago. I thought it super stuff. If memory serves , I think £23 a ton . Fed it to weanlings and year and a halves , more as a silage stretcher.
At that time , you contacted the hauler , and if you were in with him , you got it. Then it change to a crowd took over the distribution of it , and a small lad like me was gone. KW Systems ?? Might be wrong on that .
Would brewers grains and the byproduct from distilling be similar ?
I gave the fattening bunch 8 kilos yesterday through the feeder and half of that to the store bunch. They had it all cleared today anyway. They seem content enough on it.
I'm not sure exactly what their name is I think he bought it off KW forages. It all two year old cattle that he's feeding in that yard. He was feeding all the meal in five gallon drums but we spent yesterday yoking up the uncles old 7011 and that's working the feeder the finest. I left the moffet there to load it with and it's working well so far.
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That some weight on the Moffett.
Is that an 80 feeder ? Seems smaller than a 100. Has it the beet washer thingy in the bottom ?